2010-10-06 PA WGM Minutes

Patient Administration Work Group Minutes - Wednesday October 6, 2010

Wednesday Q1

HL7 Patient Administration Meeting Minutes Location: Parlor 211		Date: 2010-10-06 Time: Wednesday Q1
Facilitator	Gregg Seppala	Note taker	Alex de Leon
Attendee	Name	Affiliation
X	Gregg Seppala	VHA
X	Jay Zimmerman	HL7 Canada
X	Jane Daus	McKesson
.	Wendy Huang	Canada Infoway
X	Barry Guinn	EPIC
X	Line Saele	Helse Vest IKT Norway
X	Morten Myhre	Helse Vest IKT Norway
X	Alex de Leon	Kaiser Permanente
X	Irma Jongeneel	HL7 Netherlands
Quorum Requirements Met (Chair + 4 members): Yes

Agenda

Agenda Topics

1. V2.8 New Content Proposals

Supporting Documents
HL7 V2 Proposal Database

Minutes

Minutes/Conclusions Reached:

1. Proposal #622 (Chapter 3)
   • The only proposal found was an unfinished business with proposal #622. This was pending feedback from the international affiliates. This proposal had to do with the Rename and redefine PID.35 (Currently Species; deprecate PID.36 (currently Breed).
   • Motion (Alex / Barry): motioned to accept the proposal.
   • Discussion: The WG feels that we still need to consult with the international affiliates to assure that this is not US realm specific. However; the WG felt that this, along with any issues around the definition would be resolved, in the balloting.
   • Vote: 7 / 0 / 0
   • Conclusion/Action Item(s): The v2 proposal database was updated with Accept with a memo indicating that this was approved by PA.
2. Proposal # 671 (Chapter 15)
   • This proposal refers to the PMU/ACK Event B07 (Grant Certificate /Permission) and PMU/ACK Event B08 (Revoke Permission). This may have to involve the security WG.
   • Conclusion/Action Item(s): The WG decided that there was follow up necessary with the submitter to provide a use case for this proposal since this seems to extend beyond chapter 15. It appears that this is extending into the areas of privacy and consent directives. It was suggested to ask the submitter to join the WG meeting later to provide more information. The v2 proposal database was updated with a memo – “unclear on use case; seems to be tied to consent directives. If so, need to coordinate with the Security work group.”
3. Proposal # 606 (All Chapters)
   • This proposal refers to adding tables explicitly describing message pairs in the transactions for all chapters.
   • Conclusion/Action Item(s): The WG recommends submitting this to the publishing WG for consensus and potential addition to all chapters. The examples do not seem very informative. The optionality may be conditional with comments indicating that it is dependant on the header information. The v2 proposal database was updated with the disposition reading PA Has no objections but forwarding to the v2 publishing work group since it affects all chapter.
4. Proposal # 672 (Chapter 8)
   • This proposal refers to addition of a new action code to MFE-1 to allow for record level replacement. The proposed additional action code is a MRP (Replace the whole record for master file). This may affect other chapters based on the update on HL& Table 0180 since it is a Record-level event code. The WG feels it should be submitted to control query for effects on other chapters.
   • There are other chapters which reference this table: 2,15 and 17. The WG feels that this would have to be coordinated with InM and Orders/Observations.
   • Motion (Jay / Irma): A motion was made to accept with a message to the submitter to get approval from other chapters that are affected.
   • Vote: 7 /0 / 0
   • Conclusion/Action Item(s): The proposal database was updated, adding a memo reading “PA accepts for chapter 15. Submitter also needs to also get approval from all other WGs responsible for chapters that reference Table 0180 (i.e InM -Chapter 2 and Orders - Chapter 17).” Also, send a message back to the submitter.

Meeting Outcomes

Actions (Include Owner, Action Item, and due date) .

Next Meeting/Preliminary Agenda Items .

Wednesday Q2

HL7 Patient Administration Meeting Minutes Location: Parlor 211		Date: 2010-10-06 Time: Wednesday Q2
Facilitator	Gregg Seppala	Note taker	Alex de Leon
Attendee	Name	Affiliation
X	Gregg Seppala	VHA
X	Jay Zimmerman	HL7 Canada
X	Jane Daus	McKesson
.	Wendy Huang	Canada Infoway
X	Barry Guinn	EPIC
X	Line Saele	Helse Vest IKT Norway
X	Morten Myhre	Helse Vest IKT Norway
X	Alex de Leon	Kaiser Permanente
X	Irma Jongeneel	HL7 Netherlands
X	Rene Spronk	HL7 Netherlands
X	Alex Zupan	TBS Group
X	Massimo Frossi	TBS Group
Quorum Requirements Met (Chair + 4 members): Yes

Agenda

Agenda Topics

1. V3 Work - Link / unlink roles in registries (Spronk)

Supporting Documents

• Linking_and_Unlinking_of_Roles_in_Registries

Minutes

Minutes/Conclusions Reached:

Meeting Outcomes

Actions (Include Owner, Action Item, and due date) .

Next Meeting/Preliminary Agenda Items .

Wednesday Q3

HL7 Patient Administration Meeting Minutes Location: Parlor 211		Date: 2010-10-06 Time: Wednesday Q3
Facilitator	Gregg Seppala	Note taker	Alex de Leon
Attendee	Name	Affiliation
X	Gregg Seppala	VHA
X	Jay Zimmerman	HL7 Canada
X	Jane Daus	McKesson
.	Wendy Huang	Canada Infoway
X	Barry Guinn	EPIC
X	Line Saele	Helse Vest IKT Norway
.	Morten Myhre	Helse Vest IKT Norway
X	Alex de Leon	Kaiser Permanente
X	Irma Jongeneel	HL7 Netherlands
Quorum Requirements Met (Chair + 4 members): Yes

Agenda

Agenda Topics

1. Approve minutes from Rio WGM
2. Plan next meeting (Sydney)
3. V3 Work - Harmonization proposals

Supporting Documents

• PA Minutes Rio

Minutes

Minutes/Conclusions Reached:

Meeting Outcomes

Actions (Include Owner, Action Item, and due date) .

Next Meeting/Preliminary Agenda Items .

Wednesday Q4

HL7 Patient Administration Meeting Minutes Location: Parlor 211		Date: 2010-10-06 Time: Wednesday Q4
Facilitator	Gregg Seppala	Note taker	Alex de Leon
Attendee	Name	Affiliation
X	Gregg Seppala	VHA
X	Jay Zimmerman	HL7 Canada
X	Jane Daus	McKesson
.	Wendy Huang	Canada Infoway
X	Barry Guinn	EPIC
.	Line Saele	Helse Vest IKT Norway
X	Morten Myhre	Helse Vest IKT Norway
X	Alex de Leon	Kaiser Permanente
X	Irma Jongeneel	HL7 Netherlands
X	Rene Spronk	HL7 Netherlands
Quorum Requirements Met (Chair + 4 members): Yes

Agenda

Agenda Topics

1. V3 Work - Encounter DSTU Findings

Supporting Documents

• OUH_Encounter_Model
• Proposal:_update_Find_Encounters_Query_-_part_2

Minutes

Minutes/Conclusions Reached:

Meeting Outcomes

Actions (Include Owner, Action Item, and due date) .

Next Meeting/Preliminary Agenda Items .

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