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Date: 2013-10-10
Time: 2PM Eastern
Facilitator: Andy Note taker(s): Lynn Laakso
Attendee Name, Affiliation
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x Woody Beeler, Beeler Consulting
x Wilfred Bonney, HL7 HQ
Jeff Brown, HL7 ES liaison
Joshua Carmody, HL7 HQ Tooling Administrator
x Dennis Cheung, co-chair, eHealth Ontario
Jane Curry, Templates, OHT liaison
Diego Kaminker, Education liaison
x Lynn Laakso, HL7 HQ Tooling Support
x Brian Pech
John Ritter, EHR
Abdul-Malik Shakir, CIC liaison
Rob Snelick, CGIT liaison
Rene Spronk, Marketing liaison
x Andy Stechishin, Co-chair
regrets Michael van der Zel, co-chair
Quorum Requirements Met (co-chair plus 3 counting staff): (yes)


Agenda Topics

  • Other/New Business


Minutes/Conclusions Reached:
Convened at 2:07 PM; Andy will chair this week and Dennis next week and make arrangements for chairing schedule for the rest of the cycle.

  • Roll Call & Agenda Review - need an agenda item to discuss tooling priorities WRT budget planning; amended agenda as discussed moved for approval by Dennis seconded by Woody. Unanimously approved.
  • Approval of previous minutes from
  • Review action items -
    • Andy to word-smith the wording for the Tooling Challenge and send to AMS & GWB first then Tooling list - we emailed a press release on the prior Tooling Challenge but not a description of next year's.
    • notify the cochairs, editors and internationaladmin lists in addition to Tooling the intent of Tooling's consideration to drop support for Visio 2002 effective with review at 2014JanuaryWGM in San Antonio. It should come from a cochair - assign to Andy.
    • Andy will talk to John about Regex expression license. A Regex expression library used inside the MWB is needed for the Mayo compile according to Matt Graham.
    • Andy will talk to John and Mark about an iOS developers' license for HL7. Andy has not yet discussed this also but is only about $99 for the ability to post apps to the Apple App Store. Google playstore terms and conditions unknown yet.
  • How to package the Tooling Challenge winning entry with documentation and user guide and put it out there for people to use (Package release)
    • Does it need copyrights and cover pages? Woody notes it's pretty complete but copyright statement review is warranted.
    • Take the project information, rename to Tooling Challenge Winner 2013 perhaps. The URL may not change. Add to the document spaces the document (PDF) and make it a release along with the eap and 2 xml files under some other project. Link from wiki page,, an announcement, etc. but make it a membership access for now. Maybe put a zip file out as a product with a product brief. ACTION ITEM: Andy will create a zip archive suitable for putting on the products page.
  • Finalize 2013-2014 Tooling Challenge topic: need first to know what the IP arrangements of the initial participants are with respect to their submissions as one of the developers want to extend it. See Tooling_Challenge_contest_rules #4; remains developer's IP with a license to HL7.
    • Topic was to take what had been submitted and put proposal together for defining work necessary for maintaining HL7 V3 artifacts in OTS UML tool with XMI interface. This Challenge is for a design, e.g. requirements and approach and not so much the actual development. If an entrant can demonstrate it all steps save tool XMI to MIF it would be sufficient whether using EA or another. The press release stated "The goal of the upcoming challenge will be to define the requirements and approach for the development of a tooling project for HL7 for static models and the support of HL7 specialized diagramming syntax, moving away from the Visio-based modeling." Need a page or two listing requirements. Polish the "next steps" document Woody created and put it into "contest-ese". ACTION ITEM: Lynn will create a rough draft for review.
  • Status of EHR-S FM Profiler Phase 2 deliverable - may have an update tomorrow. Snapshot of deliverable in motion was sent to HQ, review next week.
  • tooling priorities WRT budget planning
    • Dennis asks for confirmation on the Tooling Strategy and feedback to guide prioritization. John presented to the Board not as a request for endorsement but as a statement of direction - this is what we're going to do.
    • Tooling Strategy Word version reviewed for objectives
    • Tooling Strategy Gantt chart reviewed for activities
    • Woody also suggests technical topics for tool developers on how the tools work, in detail beyond just being able to use it in relation to hands-on laboratory type session or by webinar or GTM. Andy notes that an online lab doesn't suit itself to recording, where a canned presentation is more useful for reference or prerequisite.
    • The items in the Gantt chart don't really imply budget requirements. How do we address our tooling gaps using budgeted resources, e.g. vocabulary tool, RIM Maintenance etc that are single-sourced. FHIR tooling support by the core team is also not the best use of their time. Andy notes that FMG recently discussed the provision of support by Publishing, Tooling, ES for FHIR work.
    • Tactical items not showing up on the strategic plan, seems to be the issue. We need to re-work the action plan based on experience and lacking the guidance from the board on making tools a member-only benefit. Andy will use the strategy and look at tactical considerations and run past the list for review and then pass it on to John Quinn, but plan to discuss further on next week's call.

Woody will be out for two weeks.

Adjourned 3:03 PM

Meeting Outcomes

  • Andy will create a zip archive of the Tooling Challenge winner suitable for putting on the products page.
  • Lynn will create a rough draft for the 2013-2014 Challenge topic for review.
  • Andy will use the strategy and look at tactical considerations and run past the list for review and then pass it on to John Quinn, but plan to discuss further on next week's call.
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