2018-08-01 FMG concall

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HL7 TSC FMG Meeting Minutes


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Date: 2018-08-01
Time: 4:00 PM U.S. Eastern
Chair: Note taker(s): Anne W.
Quorum = chair + 4 yes/no
Co chairs x David Hay x Lloyd McKenzie
ex-officio . Wayne Kubick, CTO
Members Members Members Observers/Guests
Hans Buitendijk x Brian Postlethwaite Paul Knapp x Anne W., scribe
x Josh Mandel x John Moehrke x Brian Pech
x Grahame Grieve .



  • Roll Call
  • Agenda Check
  • Minutes from 2018-07-18_FMG_concall
    • MOTION to approve: Grahame/Brian Post
    • VOTE: All in favor
  • Action items
    • David to create tracker items for the QA that wasn't applied
      • Carry forward
    • Grahame to put together something to describe a desired level of BR&R community engagement in order to own Substance
      • Carry forward
    • Grahame to draft a process for approving technically breaking changes that are believed not to impact any implementations and submit for review by FMG, MnM and SGB
      • Carry forward. Needs to be in spec before ballot. We said breaking changes could be made if there was no effect on implementations.
        • ACTION: Lloyd will complete for next week
    • VerificationResult: Brian to check with WG regarding the potential for splitting
      • Carry forward
    • Anne to nudge TSC about what they want to do about expiring FMG positions
      • TSC referred to SGB
    • Documenting/communicating policy on balloting/publishing as Normative (FMM5)
      • David accepts the action. Carry forward.
    • Vetting unapproved resources for publication
      • David accepts the action. Carry forward.
  • Review Items
    • Contextualized potential drug-drug interaction clinical decision support PSS
      • Group reviews. Noted that they checked “FHIR Resources” and “New Standard”. If they want new resources they will have to come to FMG.
      • MOTION to approve: David/Brian Pech
      • VOTE: Brian Post abstains. Remaining in favor.
    • CDISC Lab Semantics in FHIR PSS
      • Group reviews. Why is OO not a cosponsor? Not comfortable with them being merely an interested party. They wish to go to comment ballot. They could simply post their stuff and get review by interested party instead of balloting. Can’t publish as comment only as noted in project objectives. Should be STU. Could ballot in January and publish around March. The IG should be maintained on HL7 Github. Haven’t seen an IG proposal for this either. Would like to see where they’re hosting the IG. Why does the TSC allow groups to indicate a comment only ballot? If they’re indicating eventual publication it has to be STU.
      • MOTION: Not approved because we’d like to see STU ballot prior to publication, and an IG proposal/OO added as a cosponsor before balloting: David/Brian Post
      • VOTE: All in favor
    • Review of remaining tracker items
      • 13470: duplicate of 16414
      • 11305: Bryn joins to discuss.
        • MOTION: Will propose renaming this to MeasureDefinition in the Sept. 2018 STU ballot to see what implementers say. Resolution: Persuasive with mod: Grahame/Brian Pech
        • VOTE: All in favor
      • 10745: MOTION to approve making the updates to the executive summary: Grahame/Brian Pech
      • VOTE: All in favor
      • 16330: Rob McClure joins to discuss. Made suggested updates to FMM.
        • MOTION to approve updates: John/David
        • VOTE: All in favor
      • 15734: MOTION to punt to R5: Grahame/John
      • 13421:
        • MOTION to mark already complete: Graham/John
        • VOTE: All in favor
      • 12490:
        • MOTION to approve making the update: Grahame/David
        • VOTE: All in favor
      • 17587:
        • MOTION to approve moving to Security: John/Brian Pech
        • VOTE: All in favor
  • Discussion Topics
    • Criteria for inclusion of profiles and valuesets in FHIR Core
      • Carry forward
    • Need to post dispositions for everything in core – reconciliation spreadsheet needs to be posted Sunday. Some content will not have a resolution yet.
      • MOTION to find 13969 and 14004 as not related: Grahame/John
      • VOTE: All in favor
      • 16171:
        • MOTION to find non-persuasive: John/David
        • VOTE: All in favor
      • 16035: Resolved by Grahame’s fix
      • MOTION to disposition any tracker items that are not resolved by 11:59 PM Friday to be considered for future use or not persuasive and defer to R5: Grahame/John
      • VOTE: All in favor
  • Reports
    • Connectathon management (David/Brian)
    • SGB –
    • MnM –
    • FMG Liaisons
  • Process management
  • AOB (Any Other Business)

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