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ARB - Meeting (Date in Title)


  1. Call to order
  2. Roll Call
  3. Approval of Agenda
  4. Approval of Minutes
  5. Feedback on definition of product line
  6. Report from Architecture Project
  7. Review of BAM Approach from Baltimore minutes
  8. Plan to Action work from now to Jan 2012 WGM
  9. Other business and planning
  10. Adjournment

Meeting Information

HL7 ArB Work Group Meeting Minutes

Location: Telcon

Date: 20121018
Time: 4:00pm U.S. Eastern
Facilitator Parker, Ron Note taker(s) Julian, Tony
Attendee Name Affiliation
. Bond,Andy NEHTA
X Constable, Lorraine Constable Consulting Inc.
X Curry, Jane Health Information Strategies
X Dagnall, Bo HP Enterprise Services
. Grieve, Grahame Health Intersections Pty Ltd
. Hufnagel, Steve U.S. Department of Defense, Military Health System
X Julian, Tony Mayo Clinic
. Loyd, Patrick ICode Solutions
. Lynch, Cecil Accenture
X Mead, Charlie National Cancer Institute
X Milosevic, Zoran NEHTA
X Parker, Ron CA Infoway
. Quinn, John Health Level Seven, Inc.
. Guests
. Kreisler, Austin HL7 TSC Chair
. Pech, Brian Kaiser Permanente
. Legend
X Present
. Absent
R Regrets
Quorum Requirements Met: Yes


  1. Call to order at 4:00pm Eastern
  2. Approval of Agenda
  3. Approval of Minutes
    1. MOTION approve minutes and agenda (Jane/Charlie)
    2. VOTE (6-0-2
  4. Feedback on definition of product line - deferred
  5. Report from Architecture Project
    1. Lorraine: No meeting this week.
    2. Austin: No meeting this week.
  6. Review of BAM Approach from Baltimore minutes
    1. Ron walked through the slide deck presented to the TSC.
      1. Explained governance, managment, and methodology framework.
      2. Presented initial framework
    2. Saturday meeting:
      1. If HL7 cant provide a room, we will find something.
      2. Charlie and Ron will split to TSC and excercise.
      3. Headcount: Lorraine, Jane, Bo, Stephen, Abdul-Malik Shakir, Cecil, Zoran not sure.
    3. Should plan to use Q3 sunday to prepare TSC report.
    4. Abdul-Malik Shakir and Bo met last friday.
  7. Plan to Action work from now to Jan 2012 WGM
    1. Next steps
      1. Bo: continue to fill out spreadsheet for raw data, specially what and who.
      2. Jane: We need to follow SAIF steps.
      3. Lorraine: Where addressed within SAIF - some are outside
      4. Ron: Each provides a perspective to the NOW. The really new things are the business context, what are we doing, why, from where are the requirements derived. The Domain analysis will help. Also describe who is creating the dynamic model.
      5. Abdul-Malik Shakir: the later activities should happen after the BAM, not as part of it.
      6. ROn: BAM should define when they should occur, not the instances.
      7. Lorraine, the alphas are going through the excercise. - working our way through it, making it up as we go along.
      8. Ron: Touchpoints with the Architecture project. We are producing the framework, not filling in all of the slots. Objective was to have product to hand to the organization to finish.
      9. Charlie: Operational definition of product lines was included.
      10. Ron: We need product line definition to operationalize the BAM.
      11. Austin: We think we know how, with nested product lines (families/lines).
      12. Ron: Helping people align to a scope of the BAM is critical.
      13. Austin: We cant be rigourous to apply immediately.
      14. Jane: TSC had backward compatibility and datatypes on the schedule.
      15. Austin: The taskforce is to provide initial recommendation by the end of the month.
      16. Charlie: We are still on track for the end of the month.
      17. Austin: Calvin has done a great job.
      18. Ron: Propose that we finish the spreadsheet, assigning sections to individuals.
    2. Assignments:
      1. Jane and Ron on product-line adoption planning, and product line inventory
      2. Conceptual perspective: Lorraine and Abdul-Malik
      3. Conceptual perspective bindings:
      4. Logical Perspective artifact definitions: Stephen and Cecil, Bo
      5. Logical Perspective artifact bindings:Stephen and Cecil, Bo
      6. Implementation guides: SAIF based, not message interactions. Zoran and Charlie
      7. Balloting, review and voting, and reconcillation - Jane suggests that this should be defered.
      8. Austin: The highest are near the top.
      9. Jane:Implementation guide is marrying of the static and dynamic layers.
      10. Charlie: and traceable to the conceptual.Zoran: Send me times where you and Andy can meet.
      11. Abdul-Malik will continue on the meta portions.
  8. Other business and planning
    1. Next week: Walk through work products.
    2. Bo, Abdul-Malik presents insights with tooling.
    3. Status of product line definition.
    4. Charlie will chair.
  9. Adjournment

Tony Julian 21:03, 18 October 2012 (UTC)