January 2018 WGM New Orleans; Jan 27 to Feb 8

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New Orleans WGM - Jan 2018 Patient Care WG Meeting Draft/Approved agenda:
NOTE- to view WGM meeting minutes: follow the link for each quarter in Event column of the agenda below

Attendee List https://tinyurl.com/ydc62s7j

Agenda

Day	Time	Qtr	Room	#	Event	Host	Joining	Chair	Scribe
Sunday Jan 28	AM	Q1
		Q2
	PM	Q3
		Q4
Day	Time		Room	#	Event	Host	Joining	Chair	Scribe
Monday Jan 29	AM	Q1	Windsor - 3rd Floor	20	* Agenda: PCWG Admin Approve PC_Sept_2017_WGM Review Jan 2018 WGM Agenda DMP review Default DMP DMP Addendum Template chat.hl7.org	Patient Care		Michelle	Michael Tan
		Q2	Jefferson Ballroom - 3rd Floor	20	GF#14720 Add Guidance for Exchanging Notes - 2018-Jan Core #42 GF#12676 Guidance request for GP SOAP in FHIR (Alexander Henket) - https://chat.fhir.org/#narrow/stream/implementers/topic/ClinicalImpression Dec 14 SD Minutes 2017-11-30_Patient_Care_FHIR_Call#Clinical_Note ClinicalNote_FHIR_Resource_Proposal Past tracker, GF#8780, A Home for Unstructured Clinical Content Health Concern - tracking/linking heterogeneous resources Clinical Impression FHIR resource maturity	Patient Care	Accepted: SD, FHIR-I,EC	Michael	Jay
		Q2b	TBD	NA	Podiatry Functional Profile Head	EHR		NA	TBD
	PM	Q3	Jefferson Ballroom - 3rd Floor	NA	* Agenda: Mega Report Out * Meeting notes - refer to EHRWG meeting minutes and Mega Report Out Slides * PCWG presentation slide deck: insert here	EHR	Accepted: Patient Care	NA	Jay/Laura - Present; Emma - Scribe
		Q4	Commerce - 3rd Floor	NA	* Agenda: Joint Session with FHIR & OO on FHIR workflow *Meeting Notes	FHIR-I	Accepted: PC	NA	Emma
Day	Time		Room	#	Event	Host	Joining	Chair	Scribe
Tuesday Jan 30	AM	Q1	Jefferson Ballroom - 3rd Floor	40	* Agenda: FHIR/PCWG - CIMI - Skin Care model meeting * Meeting notes	Patient Care	Accepted: CIMI, EC	Jay	Laura
		Q2	Magazine - 3rd Floor	20	* Agenda: FHIR Change requests * PHER will join PC to discuss the new OccupationalData resource CarePlan / Goal / CareTeam trackers GF#14870 Goal.outcome should support Quantity - 2018-Jan Core #210 GF#14818 detail.reasonCode redundant with Goal.description - 2018-Jan Core #158 GF#14817 detail.kind is redundant with reference - 2018-Jan Core #157 GF#14760 Why can care teams omit subject have group? - 2018-Jan Core #99 Gay Dolin-InPerson GF#14483 Use of reference for planDefinition in carePlan need to be added back. Jeffrey Danford-InPerson GF#13903 CarePlan should allow tracking of past activities (i.e. past interventions) (Rick Geimer) GF#14819 No submission - 2018-Jan Core #159 GF#10028 Careplan: Provide ability to specify patient and/or provider preferences (Emma Jones) meet need with a profile for preference on the observation resource. Requirements are a preference category (nutrition, medication, care), the preference priority (high/medium/delayed from C-CDA) and with elements of expressor and recorder. This profile would not be developed for this release cycle GF#13140 logical definition of care-plan-category value set may require realignment with SCT changes (Matthew Cordell) pending SNOMED proposal: https://confluence.ihtsdotools.org/display/cmag/Care+plans Rob said he would follow up on the status of the SNOMED proposal GF#11173 CarePlan needs support for reviews - 2016-09 core #327 (Stephen Chu) Tracking of reviews and plans for reviews is something that applies to many resources, not just CarePlan (e.g. protocols, standing orders, long term care admissions, etc.). This is something probably best handled by "Task" but will require a fair bit of analysis and discussion with other work groups to agree on approach. Defer to R4. Consider transfer to OO who owns Task	Patient Care	Declined: FHIR-I	Michelle	Michelle/Emma
	PM	lunch	?
		Q3a	Magazine - 3rd Floor	20	* Agenda: FHIR Admin and Change requests * Nutrition Transitions of Care IG AllergyIntolerance GF#14801 Add a field for Approximate onset date - 2018-Jan Core #141 GF#14800 AllergyIntolerance.code should be 1..1 - 2018-Jan Core #140	Patient Care	Accepted: FHIR-I	Michelle	Michelle
		Q3b	TBD	NA	* Agenda: SD Hosted Joint Quarter: C-CDA Score Card; Advance Directive Templates * Meeting notes:	SD		NA	Emma
		Q4	Jefferson Ballroom - 3rd Floor	40	* Agenda: * Negation * harmonization across specification families * other vocab topics * Michael T to Pharmacy/BRR re medication knowledge * Meeting notes:	Patient Care	Accepted: CIMI, Vocab, Clin Genomics, SD, OO	Jay	Emma
Day	Time		Room	#	Event	Host	Joining	Chair	Scribe
Wednesday Jan 31	AM	Q1	Magazine - 3rd Floor	20	* Agenda: FHIR Change requests - with OO representatives GF#14732 How are dependent relationships represented? - 2018-Jan Core #54 Claude Nanjo-InPerson GF#12633 Split Procedure into Procedure and ProcedureStatement (Lloyd McKenzie) Zulip chat asking for implementer feedback: https://chat.fhir.org/#narrow/stream/implementers/topic/Procedure.20vs.20ProcedureStatement Dave commented that there is relevance for ProcedureStatement in context of CarePlan activities (Activity Statements where the activity is a procedure) ServiceRequest - trackers and open issues Procedure/Diagnostic Report - picking up this stream: http://lists.hl7.org/read/messages?id=319935 Seems to imply using DR to create a ProcedureReport ( e.g. a SX Report, Dental Report, etc) Need to clarify the intent in order to update Proc and DR's scope and boundaries Update on ClinicalNotes from Mon Q2 discussion with SD, FHIR-I, and PC. Other areas of common interest Meeting notes	Patient Care	Accepted: OO	Michelle	Emma
		Q2	Durham - 3rd Floor	NA	* Agenda: PA hosted joint meeting -- Episode of Care; Care Team * Should OrganizationRole be added to CareTeam? * Meeting notes:	PA	Accepted: PC	NA	Michelle / Michael
	PM	lunch	TBD	20	* Agenda: Clinician-On-FHIR Preperation meeting * Meeting notes	Patient Care		Russ	Emma
		Q3	Jefferson Ballroom - 3rd Floor	NA	* Agenda: Focus on BiologicallyDerivedProduct GF#12673 How to handle HCT/TP GF#12993 Please Create a NonMedicationAdministration object or an Administration object GF#13047 Add DosageInstructions to Procedure Meeting notes:	OO	Accepted: PC Invited: CQI, CDS, Pharmacy, OO, PA, FHIR-I	NA	Michelle
		Q3b	TBD	NA	* Agenda: Common Clinical Registry Framework * Meeting notes:	CIC	Accepted: PC Invited: CQI	NA	Laura
		Q4	Magazine - 3rd Floor	30	* Agenda: Allergy/Intolerance topic meeting. Drug list approach & Issues. Allergy resource maturity * Meeting notes:	Patient Care	Accepted: Pharmacy, Vocab	Jay	Michael T
Day	Time		Room	#	Event	Host	Joining	Chair	Scribe
Thursday Feb 1	AM	Q1a	St James - 3rd Floor	35	Care Plan -invite FHIR, Structured Docs, Pharmacy Evelyn Gallego Care Plan Survey - Implementations, pilots, proposals CDA HL7 C-CDA 2.1 Care Plan Document Template - Lisa Nelson HL7 CDA R2 Personal Advanced Care Plan Document - Lisa Nelson IHE QRPH Early Hearing Detection and Intervention (EHDI) Plan of Care- Lisa Nelson Patient Care Care Plan Project HL7 Care Plan Domain Analysis Model/FHIR Harmonization - Laura Heermann/Emma Jones HL7 Care Coordination Services (CCS) functional model - LH/EJ Essential Information for Children with Special Healthcare Needs (Mike Padula) HL7 FHIR Care Plan Resource - LH/EJ IHE PCC Dynamic Care Planning Profile- EJ Update: PlanDefinition/ActivityDefinition Care Team Managment Profile - EJ HL7 Clinical Oncology Treatment Plan and Summary - Jeff Brown/Gay Dolin NCPDP/HL7 Pharmacist Care Plan - Shelly Spiro Learning Health Systems Care team project update (Russ/Laura/Emma) Bidirectional Social Services Referrals Others Check the minutes ....	Patient Care	Accepted: Pharmacy, LHS, SD	Laura	Emma
		Q1b	TDB	NA	Joint meeting with OO, CDS, PC, Templates (Note: editorial resp for V2 - Chapters 11 & 12)	OO	Accepted: Patient Care	NA	Rob H
		Q2	Jackson - 3rd Floor	25	Joint meeting with SD and Templates Proposed agenda: Template update (Template co-chair/rep) Template versioning; Structured Doc/CDA update (SDWG co-chairs) Patient Care update: Allergy/Intolerance harmonization Care Team (PC with LHS) Clinical Status Value-set - C-CDA and FHIR	Patient Care	Accepted: SD Invited: Templates	Laura/Rob H/Jay	Emma
	PM	lunch	TBD	10	Co-Chair Admin Meeting	Patient Care		Michelle	Michelle
		Q3a	St James - 3rd Floor	20	*Agenda: FHIR Change Requests related to AdverseEvent GF#13302 Vocabulary issues with AdverseEvent GF#13698 AdverseEvent.suspectedEntity.instance should allow CodeableConcept GF#11021 Increase cardinality of substance and make certainty relation to substance, not reaction - 2016-09 core #40 GF#14238 AdverseEvent.suspectEntity.instance should be expanded to include the Immunization resource (Craig Newman) - also related to GF#14152 GF#14759 Why can adverse events omit subject have group? - 2018-Jan Core #98 Gay Dolin-InPerson Meeting notes: - Need to invite CIMI	Patient Care	Accepted: BRR, FHIR-I	Michelle	Michelle
		Q3b	TBD	NA	Joint meeting with CS, OO, and PC. * Meeting notes - PC Not Needed anymore	CS	Accepted: Patient Care	NA	NA
		Q4	Norwich - 3rd Floor	NA	* Agenda: LHS - CareTeam DAM ONC/CMS eLTSS Project GF#14334 allow careteam.participant,member to reference a Practitioner role GF#12509 CareTeam participant * Meeting notes	LHS	Patient Care	NA	Emma
		Q5	Ascot - 3rd Floor	NA	L-Forms demo; Simplifier demo		Patient Care	NA	NA
Day	Time		Room		Event	Host	Joining	Chair	Scribe
Friday Feb 2	AM	Q1	St Charles Ballroom - 3rd Floor		ClinFHIR
		Q2	St Charles Ballroom - 3rd Floor		ClinFHIR
	PM	Q3	St Charles Ballroom - 3rd Floor		ClinFHIR
		Q4			No meeting

Meetings

Attendee List http://bit.ly/HL7PC_Attendees

Monday Q1

• Chair: Michelle Miller.
• Scribe: Michael Tan

• Approve minutes HL7 WGM September 2017:
  • Motion: Laura Heermann Langford
  • Second: Jay Lyle
• Approving the agenda of the current WGM. No additions and no corrections applied to the agenda.
  • Demo from Michel Rutten about the FHIR registry. Combine with L-froms on Thursday Q5. See HL7 wiki agenda.

• DMP review: do we need to adjust the DMP?
  • Quorum: Our current DMP requires 3 persons. We still tend to keep this quorum to have enough diversity of standpoints.
  • Electronic voting: Our current DMP is identical to the standard DMP, but the section on the quorum does not seem viable, because it is difficult to calculate the 90% of a previous call or WGM.
  • 3 options:

1. Stick to the default DMP (90% of last meeting)
2. Stick to the standard quorum. (co-chair +3, organizing person + 3))
3. Equal to the amount of co-chair ( 7 people).

• Vote:
  • 2 persons for option 1
  • 4 persons for option 2
  • 2 persons for option 3.
• Option 2 prevails. This means that PCWG will divert for the default DMP and use the same calculation the standard quorum calculation.
• Action Item for Michael Tan to add the adjustments to DMP.

• Chat.HL7.org.
  • Wayne Kubrick has e-mailed a proposal to use Zulip as a chat platform.
  • A chat fills a need for fast moving discussions. The FHIR folks usually Zulip for this purpose. The speed of the chat is too high for normal discussion.
  • A list server discussion requires more structure and is more appropriate for a working group.
  • Most attendants prefer to stick to e-mails thru the list server. Zulip can still be used occasionally for certain events such as the Clinicians on FHIR.

• Discussion on CIMI and the relationship with CDA.
  • The CIMI should be responsible for the content.
  • The CDA is more about infrastructure.
  • There should be a CIMI management board. CIMI would guard that a CIMI product would be consistent in CDA, FHIR or V2. This CIMI management group would resemble the FHIR management group.
  • There is a call for volunteers to join the CIMI chair. Jay is considering.
  • Amit Popat reminds the attendees of a request from Austin about the future of HL7v2. This is planned for Monday Q3. **Amit is assigned as the official representative of Patient Care WG.

Monday Q2

• Chair: Michael Tan
• Scribe: Jay Lyle

Brett Marquard presented an approach for modeling Notes in FHIR. After grappling with some of the content questions, the team decided that the key differentiator is structure, and that a Note is likely a chunk of text, a document, a reference to a resource, or a mixture of these. This approach defers the definition of note content, supporting a richer variety of use cases, while supporting the ability to identify notes via some classification such as the LOINC document ontology.

• Most attendees felt this is a reasonable approach.
• MM: also address state changes, e.g., signature
• LM: docRef is for locating documents on servers. That could be changed.
• KB: But it shouldn’t, because you’ll break things that already work.
• Brett will arrange for this to be tested in the Cologne connectathon.

Alexander Henket presented an approach for recording SOAP notes as Compositions

• There is a draft profile on Simplifier
• Discussion ensued on whether Composition should contain text not derived from referenced resources.
• Decision on table: allow new content in Composition or create another resource.

Concern

• Do Condition & Linkage support requirements for Concern? Suggested it does, if Linkage supports heterogeneous resources. Others dissent.
• Clinical Impression maturity
• Maturity is low. PC priorities are currently focused on advancing most mature resources.

Tuesday Q1

• Skin and wound CIMI model
• DAM alignment
• Terminologies

Tuesday Q4

Agenda

1. Negation
   1. capture cases well-represented
   2. usage cases needed
2. Harmonization
   1. Does PC specify value sets, or only semantics of value sets?
   2. Is PC responsible for maintenance and harmonization of value sets?
   3. Can PC suggest FHIR use SD values, or vice versa?
   4. Should FHIR data type policy trump interoperability?
   5. Does legacy momentum count? I.e., should C-CDA have more weight than FHIR?
   6. Or realm? I.e., should FHIR have more weight than C-CDA?
   7. Should PC simply specify values in the DAM and expect SD & FHIR to conform?
   8. Or maintain concept maps for divergent value sets?
   9. Who should be in the discussion