2013-01-16 PA WGM Minutes

Wednesday January 16, 2013

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Wednesday Q1

HL7 Patient Administration Meeting Minutes Location: Guest Room 1301		Date: 2013-01-16 Time: Wednesday Q1
Facilitator	Line Saele	Note taker	Helen Drijfhout
Attendee	Name	Affiliation
X	Line Saele	HL7 Norway
X	Toril Reite	HL7 Norway
X	Helen Drijfhout	HL7 Netherlands
X	Christian Hay	GS1
Quorum Requirements Met (Chair + 2 members): Yes

Agenda

Agenda Topics

• FHIR - Work

Supporting Documents
FHIR FHIR v0.06 Ballot For Comment Material

Minutes

Minutes/Conclusions Reached:
On the agenda is the Provider Registry Presentation from Peter Young.
He gave this presentation Sunday afternoon in the cross-SDO meeting.
Christian thought it was a good idea to repeat that in the PA WG, for we do have a V3 model for Provider Registry.

Peter Young is from OMG.
HSSP context: collaboration between OMG and HL7.
Service Functional Model.
Ratification afterwards by HL7.

Non-secured and secured information.
Non-secured:
Developed an Iphone/IPAD app for searching a service.
Secured:
B2B secure messages.
There is an IHE mechanism for security, but it seems that the Victoria application is not compliant.

Data validation and correction automatically performed in a given interval of time.
See the last slide for website addresses.

Online 09:30:
Peter Young and Brian ?
HSSP is a project from the OMG, in collaboration with HL7, driven by the SLA interest group.
Service Functional Model, being developed by HL7.
Became members of the OMG and responded to the RFP. They have to deliver according to that.

Ken Rubin from HL7 knows all about that.
Today going to the Architecture Board in the OMG to get approvement for the standard, period of 9 months to go for approval.
Also Max Walker, also a member of HL7.
Company is DCA, Database Consultants Australia.
The Victoria system has now gone national, it is an extension of this.
Provider Name, specialties, list the sites where he works.
It's a single service from an interface point of view.
Interdependant registries.
The healthcare service is more strongly projected.
Galen Mulroony: there should be some harmonization between the Interdependent Registry Project and this.
Security mechanism outside the model
Just for updating, who can update what.
Author, Approver, Content Manager (can do both, on a wider scale).
The Interdependant Registries should be dropped and converted to this project.
Galen Mulrooney
On the last page wiki-site, it has the Service Functional Model on it, also a copy of the specficiation and the presentation.

IHE question from Christian:
Issue the got to work through. They responded to the RFP. They looked at the IHE spec and came up with reasons why it is different.
Slides 35/36 of the presentation.
They are members of IHE Australia, participating in XDS project next month.

End of presentation

Discussion:

• Irina is working on the ballot comments. She knows one of the two implementers, they are working on it.
  
• PA is inviting Galen, to speak with him today about the Interdependent Registry project.
  

Meeting Outcomes

Actions (Include Owner, Action Item, and due date)

Next Meeting/Preliminary Agenda Items .

Wednesday Q2

HL7 Patient Administration Meeting Minutes Location: Guest Room #1301		Date: 2012-05-16 Time: Wednesday Q2
Facilitator	Line Saele	Note taker	Alex de Leon
Attendee	Name	Affiliation
X	Line Saele	HL7 Norway
X	Helen Drijfhout	HL7 Netherlands
X	Barry Guinn	EPIC
X	Alex de Leon	Kaiser Permanente
X	Nat Wong	HL7 Australia
X	Christian Hay	GS1
Quorum Requirements Met (Chair + 2 members): Y

Agenda

Agenda Topics

• V2 Work

Supporting Documents

• Reconciliation Spreadsheet

Minutes

Minutes/Conclusions Reached:

The WG did not have any v2 work. Therefore we continued to address FHIR issues:
Helen moved, even though the concept of the resource name for patient should be subjectOfCare as per ISO standards TS 2220, that the resource name be Patient due to the preponderance of use within the implementation community with “subjectOfCare” as the alias.

• Comment# 163 - Nat stated that he spoke to Graham about the Agent/Provider.

The requested amendment can easily be implemented with a profile. There does not seem to be a need to constrain the core resource for Provider. Therefore the WG will retain the role attribute cardinality.

• Comment# 166 – Organization resource definition. Nat had some wording to include people or grouping of organizations. The WG agreed.
  
• Comment# 176 – Constraint on Period attribute of Organization Accreditation – WG will remove the “(Date Only)” text and make it constrained.
  
• Comment# 181 – Organization does not have a name? – The WG thinks that there might be use cases where an organization has only an ID without a name. In that case, you may only be able to send an ID with no name. Therefore we will add a constraint saying that either Name or ID is sent.
  

Action Item: Constrain the resource to send either ID or Name.

• Comment# 183 – Referred back to Llloyd to define the codes reference.
  
• Comment# 184 – Are we sure that multiple names of an organization is in the 80%. Ease of use, cardinality constrained with a profile.
  

Meeting Outcomes

Actions (Include Owner, Action Item, and due date)

Next Meeting/Preliminary Agenda Items .

Wednesday Q3

HL7 Patient Administration Meeting Minutes Location: Guest Room #1301		Date: 2013-01-16 Time: Wednesday Q3
Facilitator	Irma Jongeneel	Note taker	Alex de Leon
Attendee	Name	Affiliation
X	Line Saele	HL7 Norway
X	Helen Drijfhout	HL7 Netherlands
X	Barry Guinn	EPIC
X	Christian Hay	GS1
X	Wendy Huang	Canada Health Infoway
X	Alex de Leon	Kaiser Permanente
Quorum Requirements Met (Chair + 2 members): Yes

Agenda

Agenda Topics

• Approve San Antonio Minutes
• Plan next meeting - draft agenda

Supporting Documents

Minutes

Minutes/Conclusions Reached:

The WG reviewed the minutes from Baltimore. There were a few attendees edits to be made, mostly around incorrect affiliations.
Wendy moved to approve the minutes from Baltimore, Christian seconded.
Vote: 5/0/0

The WG continued to draft the agenda. The next meeting to be held in Atlanta, Georgia in May, 2013.
Wendy moved to approve the draft agenda. Christian seconded.
Vote: 5/0/0

Wendy brought forth a harmonization proposal regarding adding a code attribute to the OtherIDs role class in the following RMIMs:

1. Person Activate
   
2. Person Revise
   
3. Person Demographic
   
4. Person Registry Find Candidate Response
   

Wendy moved to accept the above proposal. Christian seconded.
Vote: 5/0/0

Meeting Outcomes

Actions (Include Owner, Action Item, and due date) .

Next Meeting/Preliminary Agenda Items .

Wednesday Q4

HL7 Patient Administration Meeting Minutes Location: Room# 2761		Date: 2012-05-16 Time: Wednesday Q4
Facilitator	Irma Jongeneel	Note taker	Alex de Leon
Attendee	Name	Affiliation
X	Irma Jongeneel	HL7 Netherlands
X	Jane Daus	McKesson
X	Barry Guinn	EPIC
X	Alex de Leon	Kaiser PermanenteD
X	Wendy Huang	Canada Infoway
Quorum Requirements Met (Chair + 2 members): Yes

Agenda

Agenda Topics

• Harmonization Proposals

1. Encounter Link
2. IncidentalServiceDeliveryLocationRoleType
3. IDENT
4. Provider privilege and restriction in the Provider Registry message

Minutes

Encounter Link

• This item will need the participation of Alexander Henket as the modeling facilitator, however, the WG may not move forward with this if Rene Spronke, as the submitter of this comment, retracts his comment, since this was the source of this proposal. Pending response from submitter.
  

IncidentalServiceDeliveryLocationRoleType

• This concept does not have a definition within the vocabulary. Wendy, as the vocabulary facilitator, brought this to the attention of the workgroup. The WG drafted a definition: Types of service delivery locations that are not originally intended to provide health care services, however is where the event took place. After reviewing, the WG question whether there are needs to have DedicatedServiceDeliveryLocationRoleType and IncidentialServiceDeliveryLocationRoleType, since ServiceDeliveryLocationRoleType already supports concepts that may meet the needs. So, the WG needs input from the implementers (those who proposed this) as to what this is. Wendy explained that there will be a concept domain for ServiceDeliveryLocationRoleType with these two specializations (DedicatedServiceDeliveryLocationRoleType and IncidentalServiceDeliveryLocationRoleType). The IncidentalServiceDeliveryLocationRoleType does not have a definition, therefore the WG decided to provide one as a, draft. This was provided as a definition and examples:

Types of locations, which are not designed for the purpose of providing health care services, where the care provision takes place.

Examples:
• Accident site
• Patient’s residence
• School
• Work site'

Proposal was made by Alex to accept the definition and examples as defined in the meeting. Jane seconded.

Vote: 4/0/0

IDENT

• The definition for the IDENT Role class is not clear. The definition currently reads "Roles played by entities and scoped by entities that identify them for various purposes." The WG proposed changing this to "A role for the purposes of providing identifiers that are assigned by a scoping organization."

Meeting Outcomes

Actions (Include Owner, Action Item, and due date) .

Next Meeting/Preliminary Agenda Items .

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