2013-01-16 PA WGM Minutes

Wednesday January 16, 2013

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Wednesday Q1

HL7 Patient Administration Meeting Minutes Location: Guest Room 1301		Date: 2013-01-16 Time: Wednesday Q1
Facilitator	Line Saele	Note taker	Alex de Leon
Attendee	Name	Affiliation
X	Alex de Leon	Kaiser Permanente
X	Irma Jongeneel	HL7 Netherlands
X	Iryna Roy	HL7 Canada
X	Barry Guinn	EPIC
Quorum Requirements Met (Chair + 4 members): Yes

Agenda

Agenda Topics

• FHIR - Work

Supporting Documents
FHIR FHIR v0.06 Ballot For Comment Material

Minutes

Minutes/Conclusions Reached:
On the agenda is the Provider Registry Presentation from Peter Young.
He gave this presentation Sunday afternoon in the cross-SDO meeting.
Christian thought it was a good idea to repeat that in the PA WG, for we do have a V3 model for Provider Registry.

Peter Young is from OMG.
HSSP context: collaboration between OMG and HL7.
Service Functional Model.
Ratification afterwards by HL7.

Non-secured and secured information.
Non-secured:
Developed an Iphone/IPAD app for searching a service.
Secured:
B2B secure messages.
There is an IHE mechanism for security, but it seems that the Victoria application is not compliant.

Data validation and correction automatically performed in a given interval of time.
See the last slide for website addresses.

Online 09:30:
Peter Young and Brian ?
HSSP is a project from the OMG, in collaboration with HL7, driven by the SLA interest group.
Service Functional Model, being developed by HL7.
Became members of the OMG and responded to the RFP. They have to deliver according to that.

Ken Rubin from HL7 knows all about that.
Today going to the Architecture Board in the OMG to get approvement for the standard, period of 9 months to go for approval.
Also Max Walker, also a member of HL7.
Company is DCA, Database Consultants Australia.
The Victoria system has now gone national, it is an extension of this.
Provider Name, specialties, list the sites where he works.
It's a single service from an interface point of view.
Interdependant registries.
The healthcare service is more strongly projected.
Galen Mulroony: there should be some harmonization between the Interdependent Registry Project and this.
Security mechanism outside the model
Just for updating, who can update what.
Author, Approver, Content Manager (can do both, on a wider scale).
The Interdependant Registries should be dropped and converted to this project.
Galen Mulrooney
On the last page wiki-site, it has the Service Functional Model on it, also a copy of the specficiation and the presentation.

IHE question from Christian:
Issue the got to work through. They responded to the RFP. They looked at the IHE spec and came up with reasons why it is different.
Slides 35/36 of the presentation.
They are members of IHE Australia, participating in XDS project next month.

End of presentation

Discussion:

• Irina is working on the ballot comments. She knows one of the two implementers, they are working on it.
  
• PA is inviting Galen, to speak with him today about the Interdependent Registry project.
  

Meeting Outcomes

Actions (Include Owner, Action Item, and due date)

Next Meeting/Preliminary Agenda Items .

Wednesday Q2

HL7 Patient Administration Meeting Minutes Location: Guest Room #1301		Date: 2012-05-16 Time: Wednesday Q2
Facilitator	Line Saele	Note taker	Alex de Leon
Attendee	Name	Affiliation
X	Iryna Roy	HL7 Canada
X	Irma Jongeneel	HL7 Netherlands
X	Barry Guinn	EPIC
X	Alex de Leon	Kaiser Permanente
X	Jane Daus	McKesson
Quorum Requirements Met (Chair + 3 members): Y

Agenda

Agenda Topics

• V2 Work

Supporting Documents

• Reconciliation Spreadsheet

Minutes

Minutes/Conclusions Reached:

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Meeting Outcomes

Actions (Include Owner, Action Item, and due date)

Next Meeting/Preliminary Agenda Items .

Wednesday Q3

HL7 Patient Administration Meeting Minutes Location: Room #2761		Date: 2012-05-16 Time: Wednesday Q3
Facilitator	Irma Jongeneel	Note taker	Alex de Leon
Attendee	Name	Affiliation
X	Irma Jongeneel	HL7 Netherlands
X	Jane Daus	McKesson
X	Barry Guinn	EPIC
X	Alex de Leon	Kaiser Permanente
Quorum Requirements Met (Chair + 4 members): Yes

Agenda

Agenda Topics

• Approve San Antonio Minutes
• Plan next meeting - draft agenda

Supporting Documents

Minutes

Minutes/Conclusions Reached:

Alex moved to approve the minutes from San Antonio, Jane seconded. Vote: 2/0/1 The WG continued to draft the agenda. Items to keep in mind were:

• Joint meeting with Patient Care Q2 on Tuesday
• Christian Hay presentation Q4 on Monday
• Service Delivery Location request for a quarter. To be decided upon response from Lise Stevens and Peter Goldschmidt.

Meeting Outcomes

Actions (Include Owner, Action Item, and due date) .

Next Meeting/Preliminary Agenda Items .

Wednesday Q4

HL7 Patient Administration Meeting Minutes Location: Room# 2761		Date: 2012-05-16 Time: Wednesday Q4
Facilitator	Irma Jongeneel	Note taker	Alex de Leon
Attendee	Name	Affiliation
X	Irma Jongeneel	HL7 Netherlands
X	Jane Daus	McKesson
X	Barry Guinn	EPIC
X	Alex de Leon	Kaiser PermanenteD
X	Wendy Huang	Canada Infoway
Quorum Requirements Met (Chair + 2 members): Yes

Agenda

Agenda Topics

• Harmonization Proposals

1. Encounter Link
2. IncidentalServiceDeliveryLocationRoleType
3. IDENT
4. Provider privilege and restriction in the Provider Registry message

Minutes

Encounter Link

• This item will need the participation of Alexander Henket as the modeling facilitator, however, the WG may not move forward with this if Rene Spronke, as the submitter of this comment, retracts his comment, since this was the source of this proposal. Pending response from submitter.
  

IncidentalServiceDeliveryLocationRoleType

• This concept does not have a definition within the vocabulary. Wendy, as the vocabulary facilitator, brought this to the attention of the workgroup. The WG drafted a definition: Types of service delivery locations that are not originally intended to provide health care services, however is where the event took place. After reviewing, the WG question whether there are needs to have DedicatedServiceDeliveryLocationRoleType and IncidentialServiceDeliveryLocationRoleType, since ServiceDeliveryLocationRoleType already supports concepts that may meet the needs. So, the WG needs input from the implementers (those who proposed this) as to what this is. Wendy explained that there will be a concept domain for ServiceDeliveryLocationRoleType with these two specializations (DedicatedServiceDeliveryLocationRoleType and IncidentalServiceDeliveryLocationRoleType). The IncidentalServiceDeliveryLocationRoleType does not have a definition, therefore the WG decided to provide one as a, draft. This was provided as a definition and examples:

Types of locations, which are not designed for the purpose of providing health care services, where the care provision takes place.

Examples:
• Accident site
• Patient’s residence
• School
• Work site'

Proposal was made by Alex to accept the definition and examples as defined in the meeting. Jane seconded.

Vote: 4/0/0

IDENT

• The definition for the IDENT Role class is not clear. The definition currently reads "Roles played by entities and scoped by entities that identify them for various purposes." The WG proposed changing this to "A role for the purposes of providing identifiers that are assigned by a scoping organization."

Meeting Outcomes

Actions (Include Owner, Action Item, and due date) .

Next Meeting/Preliminary Agenda Items .

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