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| width="0%" colspan="2" align="left" style="background:#f0f0f0;"|'''HL7 TSC FMG Meeting Minutes''' <br/>
 
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'''Location: <br>https://global.gotomeeting.com/join/279790597''' <br/>(voice and screen)
 
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| || Hans Buitendijk|| ||Brian Postlethwaite  || ||Paul Knapp || || Anne W., scribe
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*Roll Call
 
*Roll Call
 
*Agenda Check
 
*Agenda Check
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*Minutes from [[2018-mm-dd_FMG_concall]]  
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**MOTION to approve: David/John
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**VOTE: All in favor
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*Minutes from [[2018-08-22_FMG_concall]]  
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**MOTION to approve: David/John
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**VOTE: Hans abstains. Remaining in favor.
 
*Action items
 
*Action items
 +
**Grahame to put together something to describe a desired level of BR&R community engagement in order to own Substance
 +
***Carry forward
 +
**Lloyd to draft a process for approving technically breaking changes that are believed not to impact any implementations and submit for review by FMG, MnM and SGB
 +
***Carry forward
 +
**David to remind WGs that have resources in the build without a resource proposal to complete one
 +
***Complete.
 
*Review Items
 
*Review Items
 +
**[http://confluence.hl7.org/display/HL7/2-To-FHIR 2-To-FHIR PSS]
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***Hans describes. Would map FHIR to V2. Discussion over potential cosponsors and whether original V2 mappings will be updated as a result of this work. May make sense for FMG to be a cosponsor. No specific implementers yet but lots of interest.
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****MOTION that FMG will cosponsor this project: Hans/David
 +
****VOTE: All in favor
 +
****MOTION to approve the project: David/Hans
 +
****VOTE: All in favor
 +
**Pending resource proposals
 +
***OccupationalDataforHealth should be removed.
 +
***EntryDefinition, VerificationResult, ClinicalNote are still up in the air.
 +
***AdverseEvent: Resource Relationships section should describe what the relationship is with the listed resources. Timeline could also be updated.
 +
****ACTION: Anne to contact BR&R cochairs/modeling facilitator to ask them to update the resource relationships section.
 +
***BiologicallyDerivedProduct
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****ACTION: Hans to reach out to OO on this one. Need to know the boundary between the resources in the resource relationships section.
 +
****Lloyd edited resource relationships section and added a resource boundaries section on the template to clarify.
 +
***ChargeItemDefinition:
 +
****ACTION: Brian to add RIM scope and boundaries section.
 +
***ClinicalNote:
 +
****ACTION: Anne to send a note to Patient Care to ask if this proposal should still be on the table, and if so, to flesh it out.
 +
***DeviceAlert:
 +
****ACTION: Anne to verify with Health Care Devices if they intent to continue with this resource
 +
***DeviceDefinition: Waiting for information gathered from Connectathon
 +
***DeviceUseStatement: Discusison over whether this is something EHR systems actually track.
 +
****ACTION: Hans to take back to OO, CDS and CQI for clarification
 +
***EntryDefinition is being renamed
 +
****ACTION: Hans to check with Lorraine on status
 +
***Invoice:
 +
****ACTION: Brian Post to update
 +
***MedicationKnowledge and MedicinalProduct are up in the air. Conversations ongoing.
 +
***MessageDefinition:
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****MOTION to approve: Hans/Brian Post
 +
****VOTE: All in favor
 +
***ObservationDefinition2: Boundaries tie in to Catalog. Need to clarify what is here vs. what is in CatalogEntry. How do we leverage this with profiles so we can define a single profile that works for 2,000 observations that follow the same pattern? Need to figure out what it is and what it’s not.
 +
****ACTION: Hans to follow up with OO
 +
***OccupationalDataForHealth
 +
****ACTION: Anne to make sure that Public Health is okay retiring this one
 +
***ProductPlan – this one is renamed InsurancePlan. Needs RIM section.
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****MOTION to approve: Brian Post/David
 +
****VOTE: All in favor
 +
***Program: Incomplete
 +
****ACTION: Anne to reach out to David Pyke regarding intentions with this one
 +
***ServiceDefinition: Need to distinguish from OperationDefinition. No draft resource. Need to see what proposed resource looks like before approving it.
 +
***Study/StudyParticipation: WG hasn’t recorded a vote. Now called ResearchStudy and ResearchSubject.
 +
****ACTION: Lloyd to ping Hugh
 +
***SubstanceSpecification: How is this different than a medication in terms of what you need in a knowledge space?
 +
***TestReport – hasn’t had any use yet.
 +
***VerificationResult: Will be worked on in Baltimore
 
*Discussion Topics
 
*Discussion Topics
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*Reports
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**Virtual Connectathon
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**Connectathon management (David/Brian)
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***Carry forward
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**SGB –
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**[https://docs.google.com/document/d/1j_2HWER5p01_aZNK1GJZkdpQ05c3NRsiGo90V7W7RgE/edit#heading=h.ju6wcrgwyx2f Criteria for inclusion of profiles and valuesets in FHIR Core]
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**MnM –
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***Carry forward
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**[[FMG Liaisons]] –
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*Adjourned at 5:34 pm Eastern
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*Precepts
 
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*Process management
 
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**Ballot Planning
 
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*AOB (Any Other Business)
 
  
 
==Minutes==
 
==Minutes==

Latest revision as of 17:41, 4 September 2018

HL7 TSC FMG Meeting Minutes

Location:
https://global.gotomeeting.com/join/279790597
(voice and screen)

Date: 2018-08-29
Time: 4:00 PM U.S. Eastern
Chair: Note taker(s): Anne W.
Quorum = chair + 4 yes/no
Co chairs x David Hay x Lloyd McKenzie
ex-officio . Wayne Kubick, CTO
Members Members Members Observers/Guests
x Hans Buitendijk x Brian Postlethwaite Paul Knapp x Anne W., scribe
x Josh Mandel x John Moehrke Brian Pech
x Grahame Grieve .

Agenda

  • Roll Call
  • Agenda Check
    • MOTION to approve: David/John
    • VOTE: All in favor
  • Minutes from 2018-08-22_FMG_concall
    • MOTION to approve: David/John
    • VOTE: Hans abstains. Remaining in favor.
  • Action items
    • Grahame to put together something to describe a desired level of BR&R community engagement in order to own Substance
      • Carry forward
    • Lloyd to draft a process for approving technically breaking changes that are believed not to impact any implementations and submit for review by FMG, MnM and SGB
      • Carry forward
    • David to remind WGs that have resources in the build without a resource proposal to complete one
      • Complete.
  • Review Items
    • 2-To-FHIR PSS
      • Hans describes. Would map FHIR to V2. Discussion over potential cosponsors and whether original V2 mappings will be updated as a result of this work. May make sense for FMG to be a cosponsor. No specific implementers yet but lots of interest.
        • MOTION that FMG will cosponsor this project: Hans/David
        • VOTE: All in favor
        • MOTION to approve the project: David/Hans
        • VOTE: All in favor
    • Pending resource proposals
      • OccupationalDataforHealth should be removed.
      • EntryDefinition, VerificationResult, ClinicalNote are still up in the air.
      • AdverseEvent: Resource Relationships section should describe what the relationship is with the listed resources. Timeline could also be updated.
        • ACTION: Anne to contact BR&R cochairs/modeling facilitator to ask them to update the resource relationships section.
      • BiologicallyDerivedProduct
        • ACTION: Hans to reach out to OO on this one. Need to know the boundary between the resources in the resource relationships section.
        • Lloyd edited resource relationships section and added a resource boundaries section on the template to clarify.
      • ChargeItemDefinition:
        • ACTION: Brian to add RIM scope and boundaries section.
      • ClinicalNote:
        • ACTION: Anne to send a note to Patient Care to ask if this proposal should still be on the table, and if so, to flesh it out.
      • DeviceAlert:
        • ACTION: Anne to verify with Health Care Devices if they intent to continue with this resource
      • DeviceDefinition: Waiting for information gathered from Connectathon
      • DeviceUseStatement: Discusison over whether this is something EHR systems actually track.
        • ACTION: Hans to take back to OO, CDS and CQI for clarification
      • EntryDefinition is being renamed
        • ACTION: Hans to check with Lorraine on status
      • Invoice:
        • ACTION: Brian Post to update
      • MedicationKnowledge and MedicinalProduct are up in the air. Conversations ongoing.
      • MessageDefinition:
        • MOTION to approve: Hans/Brian Post
        • VOTE: All in favor
      • ObservationDefinition2: Boundaries tie in to Catalog. Need to clarify what is here vs. what is in CatalogEntry. How do we leverage this with profiles so we can define a single profile that works for 2,000 observations that follow the same pattern? Need to figure out what it is and what it’s not.
        • ACTION: Hans to follow up with OO
      • OccupationalDataForHealth
        • ACTION: Anne to make sure that Public Health is okay retiring this one
      • ProductPlan – this one is renamed InsurancePlan. Needs RIM section.
        • MOTION to approve: Brian Post/David
        • VOTE: All in favor
      • Program: Incomplete
        • ACTION: Anne to reach out to David Pyke regarding intentions with this one
      • ServiceDefinition: Need to distinguish from OperationDefinition. No draft resource. Need to see what proposed resource looks like before approving it.
      • Study/StudyParticipation: WG hasn’t recorded a vote. Now called ResearchStudy and ResearchSubject.
        • ACTION: Lloyd to ping Hugh
      • SubstanceSpecification: How is this different than a medication in terms of what you need in a knowledge space?
      • TestReport – hasn’t had any use yet.
      • VerificationResult: Will be worked on in Baltimore
  • Discussion Topics
  • Adjourned at 5:34 pm Eastern

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