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Patient Administration Work Group Minutes - Wednesday May 16, 2012

Wednesday Q1

HL7 Patient Administration Meeting Minutes Location: Pavilion Ballroom B		Date: 2012-05-16 Time: Wednesday Q1
Facilitator	Alex de Leon	Note taker	Alex de Leon

Attendee	Name	Affiliation
X	Alex de Leon	Kaiser Permanente
X	Irma Jongeneel	HL7 Netherlands
X	Iryna Roy	HL7 Canada
X	Barry Guinn	EPIC
Quorum Requirements Met (Chair + 4 members): Yes

Agenda

Agenda Topics

V2 Work - v2.8 Comments

Supporting Documents

Minutes

Minutes/Conclusions Reached:

Irma, who is heading the effort to harmonize the Patient Care Care Provision Model and the Patient Administration, Encounter Model, along with the PAWG reviewed the PA submitted reconciliation comments along with the issues identified during Q4 yesterday.

Meeting Outcomes

Actions (Include Owner, Action Item, and due date)

Next Meeting/Preliminary Agenda Items

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Wednesday Q2

HL7 Patient Administration Meeting Minutes Location: Room #2761		Date: 2012-05-16 Time: Wednesday Q2
Facilitator	Irma Jongeneel	Note taker	Alex de Leon

Attendee	Name	Affiliation
X	Iryna Roy	HL7 Canada
X	Irma Jongeneel	HL7 Netherlands
X	Barry Guinn	EPIC
X	Alex de Leon	Kaiser Permanente
X	Jane Daus	McKesson

Quorum Requirements Met (Chair + 3 members): Y

Agenda

Agenda Topics

V2 Work

Supporting Documents

Reconciliation Spreadsheet

Minutes

Minutes/Conclusions Reached:

The WG moved on to address the comments for Chapter 3 using the comments spreadsheet.

Meeting Outcomes

Actions (Include Owner, Action Item, and due date)

Next Meeting/Preliminary Agenda Items

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Wednesday Q3

HL7 Patient Administration Meeting Minutes Location: Room #2761		Date: 2012-05-16 Time: Wednesday Q3
Facilitator	Irma Jongeneel	Note taker	Alex de Leon

Attendee	Name	Affiliation
X	Irma Jongeneel	HL7 Netherlands
X	Jane Daus	McKesson
X	Barry Guinn	EPIC
X	Alex de Leon	Kaiser Permanente

Quorum Requirements Met (Chair + 4 members): Yes

Agenda

Agenda Topics

Approve San Antonio Minutes
Plan next meeting - draft agenda

Supporting Documents

Minutes

Minutes/Conclusions Reached:

Alex moved to approve the minutes from San Antonio, Jane seconded. Vote: 2/0/1 The WG continued to draft the agenda. Items to keep in mind were:

Joint meeting with Patient Care Q2 on Tuesday
Christian Hay presentation Q4 on Monday
Service Delivery Location request for a quarter. To be decided upon response from Lise Stevens and Peter Goldschmidt.

Meeting Outcomes

Actions (Include Owner, Action Item, and due date)

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Next Meeting/Preliminary Agenda Items

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Wednesday Q4

HL7 Patient Administration Meeting Minutes Location: Room# 2761		Date: 2012-05-16 Time: Wednesday Q4
Facilitator	Irma Jongeneel	Note taker	Alex de Leon

Attendee	Name	Affiliation
X	Irma Jongeneel	HL7 Netherlands
X	Jane Daus	McKesson
X	Barry Guinn	EPIC
X	Alex de Leon	Kaiser PermanenteD
X	Wendy Huang	Canada Infoway


Quorum Requirements Met (Chair + 2 members): Yes

Agenda

Agenda Topics

Harmonization Proposals

Encounter Link
IncidentalServiceDeliveryLocationRoleType
IDENT
Provider privilege and restriction in the Provider Registry message

Minutes

Encounter Link

This item will need the participation of Alexander Henket as the modeling facilitator, however, the WG may not move forward with this if Rene Spronke, as the submitter of this comment, retracts his comment, since this was the source of this proposal. Pending response from submitter.

IncidentalServiceDeliveryLocationRoleType

This concept does not have a definition within the vocabulary. Wendy, as the vocabulary facilitator, brought this to the attention of the workgroup. The WG drafted a definition: Types of service delivery locations that are not originally intended to provide health care services, however is where the event took place. After reviewing, the WG question whether there are needs to have DedicatedServiceDeliveryLocationRoleType and IncidentialServiceDeliveryLocationRoleType, since ServiceDeliveryLocationRoleType already supports concepts that may meet the needs. So, the WG needs input from the implementers (those who proposed this) as to what this is. Wendy explained that there will be a concept domain for ServiceDeliveryLocationRoleType with these two specializations (DedicatedServiceDeliveryLocationRoleType and IncidentalServiceDeliveryLocationRoleType). The IncidentalServiceDeliveryLocationRoleType does not have a definition, therefore the WG decided to provide one as a, draft. This was provided as a definition and examples:

Types of locations, which are not designed for the purpose of providing health care services, where the care provision takes place.

Examples:
· Accident site
· Patient’s residence
· School
· Work site'

Proposal was made by Alex to accept the definition and examples as defined in the meeting. Jane seconded.

Vote: 4/0/0

IDENT

The definition for the IDENT Role class is not clear. The definition currently reads "Roles played by entities and scoped by entities that identify them for various purposes." The WG proposed changing this to "A role for the purposes of providing identifiers that are assigned by a scoping organization."

Meeting Outcomes

Actions (Include Owner, Action Item, and due date)

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Next Meeting/Preliminary Agenda Items

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+Encounter Link
-The WG proceeded with the review of the analysis done by Alexander Henket of the PA DMIM for Patient - Dutch Use Cases. The following actions were taken
+* This item will need the participation of Alexander Henket as the modeling facilitator, however, the WG may not move forward with this if Rene Spronke, as the submitter of this comment, retracts his comment, since this was the source of this proposal. Pending response from submitter.<br/>
-#Action Item: Replace content from patientEntityChoiceSubject with the current Activate Person R-MIM
-* Decided to only replace the member structure in the patient activate RMIM with the member structure in the person activate.<br/>
-Action Item: Replace PatientOfOtherProvider.A_PrincipalCareProvision with Role.CareProvision.performer.R_ResponsibleParty.
-* The CMET was the newer solution, thererefor this needs to be fixed in the DMIM.
-The Person topic covers non Patients as well, which means that certain attributes are specific to Patient...
-* For this, the WG decided that we need more information on what the request is, with regarding to some of the listed items. Therefore the WG decided to move on to the other items.<br/>
-Changed Personal relatiohship from E_LivingSubject to E_Person this should align with person activiate so change both or none.
-* The WG agreed that they shound align and that they should relate to E_Person in both RMIM and D-MIM.
-Added Member2 and relationship to ObservationEvent to support conveying houshold
-* The WG accepts this change.
-Add Citizen.code
-* The WG accepts this addition to patient
-Added Employee.code
-* The WG accepts this addition.
-Added Guardian.Code
-* The WG accepts this addition.
-Patient Revise<br/>
-Give this R-MIM the exact same content below the patientEntityChoiceSubject as Activate Patient
-* The WG accepts this proposal.<br/>
-Patient Demographics<br/>
-Give this R-MIM the exact same content below the patientEntityChoiceSubject as Activate Patient
-* The WG accetps this proposal.<br/>
-Patient Identifiers<br/>
-Replace comparable content in this R-MIM with Person Identifiers
-* The WG accepts this with the clarification that the replacement content is derived from the new Demographic R-MIM with all accepted contstraints.
-Patient Nullify<br/>
-Replace comparable content in this R-MIM with the Person Nullify
-* The WG did not see any difference in the models.<br/>
-Patient Registry Query by Demogrphics
-Why are most query parameters are 0...* which means AND logic? It is unlikely that someone has e.g. mulitple bith times. All value attributs are already 1..* so the OR logic is covered.
-* The cardinality (0..*) on the query parameter is to support RIM query infrastructure.
-Patient Registry Query by Identifier
+IncidentalServiceDeliveryLocationRoleType
-Why are most query parameters are 0...* which means AND logic? It is unlikely that someone has e.g. mulitple bith times. Use logic
+* This concept does not have a definition within the vocabulary. Wendy, as the vocabulary facilitator, brought this to the attention of the workgroup. The WG drafted a definition: Types of service delivery locations that are not originally intended to provide health care services, however is where the event took place. After reviewing, the WG question whether there are needs to have DedicatedServiceDeliveryLocationRoleType and IncidentialServiceDeliveryLocationRoleType, since ServiceDeliveryLocationRoleType already supports concepts that may meet the needs. So, the WG needs input from the implementers (those who proposed this) as to what this is. Wendy explained that there will be a concept domain for ServiceDeliveryLocationRoleType with these two specializations (DedicatedServiceDeliveryLocationRoleType and IncidentalServiceDeliveryLocationRoleType). The IncidentalServiceDeliveryLocationRoleType does not have a definition, therefore the WG decided to provide one as a, draft. This was provided as a definition and examples:
-* The cardinality (0..*) on the query parameter is to support RIM query infrastructure.
-Patient Registry Find Candidates Reponses
+'''Types of locations, which are not designed for the purpose of providing health care services, where the care provision takes place.<br/>
-* The WG accepts this proposals
-A motion was made by Alex to accept the changes outlined above
+'''Examples:'''<br/>
-Seconded by Jane
+'''·         Accident site'''<br/>
+'''·         Patient’s residence'''<br/>
+'''·         School'''<br/>
+'''·         Work site''''''<br/>
+<br/>
+Proposal was made by Alex to accept the definition and examples as defined in the meeting.
+Jane seconded.
+Vote: 4/0/0
-Vote: 5/0/0
+IDENT
+* The definition for the IDENT Role class is not clear. The definition currently reads "Roles played by entities and scoped by entities that identify them for various purposes." The WG proposed changing this to "A role for the purposes of providing identifiers that are assigned by a scoping organization."
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Patient Administration Work Group Minutes - Wednesday May 16, 2012

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