2012-05-16 PA WGM Minutes

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Patient Administration Work Group Minutes - Wednesday May 16, 2012

Wednesday Q1

HL7 Patient Administration Meeting Minutes

Location: Pavilion Ballroom B

Date: 2012-05-16
Time: Wednesday Q1
Facilitator Alex de Leon Note taker Alex de Leon
Attendee Name Affiliation
X Alex de Leon Kaiser Permanente
X Irma Jongeneel HL7 Netherlands
X Iryna Roy HL7 Canada
X Barry Guinn EPIC
Quorum Requirements Met (Chair + 4 members): Yes

Agenda

Agenda Topics

  • V2 Work - v2.8 Comments

Supporting Documents

Minutes

Minutes/Conclusions Reached:

Irma, who is heading the effort to harmonize the Patient Care Care Provision Model and the Patient Administration, Encounter Model, along with the PAWG reviewed the PA submitted reconciliation comments along with the issues identified during Q4 yesterday.

Meeting Outcomes

Actions (Include Owner, Action Item, and due date)
Next Meeting/Preliminary Agenda Items
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Wednesday Q2

HL7 Patient Administration Meeting Minutes

Location: Room #2761

Date: 2012-05-16
Time: Wednesday Q2
Facilitator Irma Jongeneel Note taker Alex de Leon
Attendee Name Affiliation
X Iryna Roy HL7 Canada
X Irma Jongeneel HL7 Netherlands
X Barry Guinn EPIC
X Alex de Leon Kaiser Permanente
X Jane Daus McKesson
Quorum Requirements Met (Chair + 3 members): Y

Agenda

Agenda Topics

  • V2 Work

Supporting Documents

Minutes

Minutes/Conclusions Reached:

The WG moved on to address the comments for Chapter 3 using the comments spreadsheet.

Meeting Outcomes

Actions (Include Owner, Action Item, and due date)
Next Meeting/Preliminary Agenda Items
  • .

Wednesday Q3

HL7 Patient Administration Meeting Minutes

Location: Room #2761

Date: 2012-05-16
Time: Wednesday Q3
Facilitator Irma Jongeneel Note taker Alex de Leon
Attendee Name Affiliation
X Irma Jongeneel HL7 Netherlands
X Jane Daus McKesson
X Barry Guinn EPIC
X Alex de Leon Kaiser Permanente
Quorum Requirements Met (Chair + 4 members): Yes

Agenda

Agenda Topics

  • Approve San Antonio Minutes
  • Plan next meeting - draft agenda

Supporting Documents

Minutes

Minutes/Conclusions Reached:

Alex moved to approve the minutes from San Antonio, Jane seconded. Vote: 2/0/1 The WG continued to draft the agenda. Items to keep in mind were:

  • Joint meeting with Patient Care Q2 on Tuesday
  • Christian Hay presentation Q4 on Monday
  • Service Delivery Location request for a quarter. To be decided upon response from Lise Stevens and Peter Goldschmidt.

Meeting Outcomes

Actions (Include Owner, Action Item, and due date)
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Next Meeting/Preliminary Agenda Items
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Wednesday Q4

HL7 Patient Administration Meeting Minutes

Location: Room# 2761

Date: 2012-05-16
Time: Wednesday Q4
Facilitator Irma Jongeneel Note taker Alex de Leon
Attendee Name Affiliation
X Irma Jongeneel HL7 Netherlands
X Jane Daus McKesson
X Barry Guinn EPIC
X Alex de Leon Kaiser PermanenteD
X Wendy Huang Canada Infoway
Quorum Requirements Met (Chair + 2 members): Yes

Agenda

Agenda Topics

  • Harmonization Proposals
  1. Encounter Link
  2. IncidentalServiceDeliveryLocationRoleType
  3. IDENT
  4. Provider privilege and restriction in the Provider Registry message

Minutes

Encounter Link

  • This item will need the participation of Alexander Henket as the modeling facilitator, however, the WG may not move forward with this if Rene Spronke, as the submitter of this comment, retracts his comment, since this was the source of this proposal. Pending response from submitter.

IncidentalServiceDeliveryLocationRoleType

  • This concept does not have a definition within the vocabulary. Wendy, as the vocabulary facilitator, brought this to the attention of the workgroup. The WG drafted a definition: Types of service delivery locations that are not originally intended to provide health care services, however is where the event took place. After reviewing, the WG question whether there are needs to have DedicatedServiceDeliveryLocationRoleType and IncidentialServiceDeliveryLocationRoleType, since ServiceDeliveryLocationRoleType already supports concepts that may meet the needs. So, the WG needs input from the implementers (those who proposed this) as to what this is. Wendy explained that there will be a concept domain for ServiceDeliveryLocationRoleType with these two specializations (DedicatedServiceDeliveryLocationRoleType and IncidentalServiceDeliveryLocationRoleType). The IncidentalServiceDeliveryLocationRoleType does not have a definition, therefore the WG decided to provide one as a, draft. This was provided as a definition and examples:

Types of locations, which are not designed for the purpose of providing health care services, where the care provision takes place.

Examples:
· Accident site
· Patient’s residence
· School
· Work site'

Proposal was made by Alex to accept the definition and examples as defined in the meeting. Jane seconded.

Vote: 4/0/0

IDENT

  • The definition for the IDENT Role class is not clear. The definition currently reads "Roles played by entities and scoped by entities that identify them for various purposes." The WG proposed changing this to "A role for the purposes of providing identifiers that are assigned by a scoping organization."

Meeting Outcomes

Actions (Include Owner, Action Item, and due date)
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Next Meeting/Preliminary Agenda Items
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