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#Agenda review and approval  
 
#Agenda review and approval  
#Approve previous meeting minutes from [[2010-08-10 Online Presence Call Minutes]]; review notes from [[2010-08-24 Online Presence Call Minutes|2010-08-24]] (no quorum)
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#Approve previous meeting minutes from [[2010-08-10 Online Presence Call Minutes]]; review notes from [[2010-08-24 Online Presence Call Minutes|2010-08-24]] and [[2010-09-07 Online Presence Call Minutes|2010-09-07]](no quorum)
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#*[[User:Rene spronk|Rene spronk]] 06:53, 8 September 2010 (UTC): A couple of comments based on the minutes of the previous ES meeting:
#*Page protection behavior - review progress of testing MediaWiki upgrade
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#**When it comes to a template for a WGs home page the definition of its contents should be even more functionally-oriented than the minutes template. WHAT (in terms of information) should be there, not HOW. The 'business' of the WGs varies, as does their level of use of the Wiki.
#*Updated project scope for Online Presence including wiki template for WG home page and AUP - (updates at http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/download/trackeritem/1463/7499/HL7PSSES_OnlinePresence_v3_2010Aug_clean.doc
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#**There is no "page ownership" on a wiki, to force all pages to be owned by one single WG stifles the 'freedom' of people to edit absolutely everything - which is exactly what we want them to do. One could recommend that either pages link back to the main page of the G, or that it be placed in a category that is (by name, or otherwise) associated with the WG. The latter has the advantage that a page can be placed into multiple WGs, or be defined as a "hot topic" by (e.g.) both MnM, InM and ITS.
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#**Note my open question on [[Talk:Wiki acceptable use policy]] - how does one designate (if it is even allowed by the AUP) that something is public domain or uses a Creative Commons license?
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* We didn’t achieve Quorum as it was Bill, Mike, Josh and myself on the call.  The agenda didn’t have any items that could be worked on without quorum.
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* The next call for Online Presence is TBD.  Why?  Currently, it’s scheduled for October 5th, but that is the week of the WGM.  October 19th would be the next date in the current cycle, but it’s common for the ES WG to reschedule their conference calls after a WGM so that it’s not the week immediately following the WGM, but rather, to take that week off and resume the 2nd week after the WGM.  In this case, that would be October 19th.
 
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#*Updated project scope for Online Presence including wiki template for WG home page and AUP - (updates at http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/download/trackeritem/1463/7499/HL7PSSES_OnlinePresence_v3_2010Aug_clean.doc
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#Adjourned 15:15
#**WG Home Page template on HL7 Wiki
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#***Notes from the [[2010-08-10_Online_Presence_Call_Minutes]] indicate Pages set up on the wiki should make available the information on what WG is the owner of that page, like a link to the WG page or WG leadership page. Revisit for a Work Group home page wiki template. Andy noted the dynamic use of Hot Topics, and heavy use of categories features of MnM are different from the way the Tooling pages are used, in a more static form
 
#***Lynn will contact Andy and solicit his involvement or write the template.
 
#**AUP
 
#***Link at [[Talk:Wiki_acceptable_use_policy]]
 
#***Discuss the 'voice' of the AUP in a common man voice vs. a formal agreement. The plain language approach is preferred by Bill.  Written in "you" and "me" voice is more easily understood.
 
#***Bill will tackle a draft.
 
#Discussion: progress on the web site - since launch of membership in July we're on non-billable development so not much news from the vendor. Prioritization of remaining work with target dates in progress between Dave and Mike. Bill asked Dave to email the ES co-chairs to discuss next week.
 
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Latest revision as of 19:36, 21 September 2010

ES OP Agenda/ Minutes

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Meeting Information

HL7 ES Online Presence Project Meeting Minutes

Location: dial 770-657-9270 and enter pass code 988978#, GoToMeeting ID: 733-885-482

Date:2010-09-21
Time: 3 pm Eastern
Facilitator Lynn Laakso Note taker(s) Lynn Laakso
Attendee Name Affiliation
x Bill Braithwaite Anakam, ES
x Josh Carmody HL7 Staff
x Dave Hamill HL7 HQ, ES
x Mike Kingery HL7 HQ, ES
Lynn Laakso HL7 HQ
Patrick Loyd GPInformatics, ES
Ken McCaslin HL7 TSS SD
Andy Stechishin Tooling co-chair
Additional participants are WELCOME!
Quorum Requirements Met: (yes/no)

Agenda

Agenda Topics

  1. Agenda review and approval
  2. Approve previous meeting minutes from 2010-08-10 Online Presence Call Minutes; review notes from 2010-08-24 and 2010-09-07(no quorum)
    • Rene spronk 06:53, 8 September 2010 (UTC): A couple of comments based on the minutes of the previous ES meeting:
      • When it comes to a template for a WGs home page the definition of its contents should be even more functionally-oriented than the minutes template. WHAT (in terms of information) should be there, not HOW. The 'business' of the WGs varies, as does their level of use of the Wiki.
      • There is no "page ownership" on a wiki, to force all pages to be owned by one single WG stifles the 'freedom' of people to edit absolutely everything - which is exactly what we want them to do. One could recommend that either pages link back to the main page of the G, or that it be placed in a category that is (by name, or otherwise) associated with the WG. The latter has the advantage that a page can be placed into multiple WGs, or be defined as a "hot topic" by (e.g.) both MnM, InM and ITS.
      • Note my open question on Talk:Wiki acceptable use policy - how does one designate (if it is even allowed by the AUP) that something is public domain or uses a Creative Commons license?
  3. Topics:
    1. Page protection behavior - review progress of testing MediaWiki upgrade
    2. WG Home Page template on HL7 Wiki
    3. AUP

Supporting Documents

Minutes

Notes/Conclusions Reached:

  • We didn’t achieve Quorum as it was Bill, Mike, Josh and myself on the call. The agenda didn’t have any items that could be worked on without quorum.
  • The next call for Online Presence is TBD. Why? Currently, it’s scheduled for October 5th, but that is the week of the WGM. October 19th would be the next date in the current cycle, but it’s common for the ES WG to reschedule their conference calls after a WGM so that it’s not the week immediately following the WGM, but rather, to take that week off and resume the 2nd week after the WGM. In this case, that would be October 19th.
  1. Agenda review and approval
  2. Approve previous meeting minutes
  3. Topics:
  4. Adjourned 15:15

Meeting Outcomes

Actions
Next Meeting/Preliminary Agenda Items
  • Same as 9/21/2010