2018-06-20 SGB Conference Call

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HL7 SGB Minutes

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Date: 2018-06-20
Time: 10:00 AM Eastern
Facilitator Paul/Lorraine Note taker(s) Anne
Attendee Name


x Calvin Beebe
x Lorraine Constable
x Russ Hamm
Regrets Tony Julian
x Paul Knapp
Ewout Kramer
x Austin Kreisler
Wayne Kubick
Thom Kuhn
Ken McCaslin
Regrets Rik Smithies
Sandy Stuart
Quorum: Chair + 4

Agenda

  • Agenda review
  • Approve Minutes of 2018-06-13_SGB_Conference_Call
  • Action Items
    • Paul to contact Vocab/PA re: approval items balloting at STU in FHIR R3
      • Will then verify with Karen that the documentation on the FHIR R3 ballot STU approvals is sufficient
    • Add balloted vs. non-balloted feedback in FHIR and continuous maintenance task force to TSC agenda
    • Paul to ask PH for clarification on the status of items taken out of tracker and then reconciled on spreadsheet/ask for a plan for addressing the issue
    • Paul to reach out to Raychelle (CDAMG candidate) to determine if she has direct participation in HL7 meetings, both face to face and calls, as we would like to see attendance at 2 out of 3 WGMs and regular participation on calls/in WG activities. Also need to ask about ballot participation/lack of voting membership.
  • Discussion Topics
  • Parking Lot
    • Continued discussion: Tasks in step 1 of the BAM
    • Normative balloting/continuous balloting in FHIR
    • Review of project management life cycle spec to see if it talks about project and ballot scope
    • Review of MG responses to SGB query on substantive change
    • Need to make sure that SGB is accurately reflected in the GOM, and figure out what precepts should appear in the GOM
    • Review Mission and Charter
    • Drafting Shared Product Management Responsibilities
    • Technical Alignments Between Product Families
    • How groups are to interact with publishing, EST, Vocabulary, etc.
    • Precept on bringing in large projects
    • Vocabulary - review HTA material for precepts
    • Precept for adding new tools (include that WGs with a specific mandate must be involved, such as EST, Publishing, Vocabulary, etc.) - was this covered by the tooling precept we created in New Orleans?
    • BAM guidance on process for product adoption
    • Create PRECEPTS that require that it be articulated in the standards how the value sets specified within the standards respond to changes in regulation, licensing, time, etc.- to do in April/before Cologne
    • FHIR Product Director Position Description: we should 1) review further and draft feedback, then 2) map back the description to the role of FGB
    • Ownership of content
    • What precepts do we need to address PSS/profile approval processes of balloting and publishing potentially thousands of CIMI model?


Minutes

  • Agenda review
    • Add discussion of newsletter content submitted by Steve Hufnagel
  • Approve Minutes of 2018-06-13_SGB_Conference_Call
    • MOTION to approve: Calvin/Austin
    • VOTE: Lorraine abstains. Remaining in favor.
  • Action Items
    • Paul to contact Vocab/PA re: approval items balloting at STU in FHIR R3
      • Will then verify with Karen that the documentation on the FHIR R3 ballot STU approvals is sufficient
        • Carry forward
    • Add balloted vs. non-balloted feedback in FHIR and continuous maintenance task force to TSC agenda
    • Paul to ask PH for clarification on the status of items taken out of tracker and then reconciled on spreadsheet/ask for a plan for addressing the issue
      • Carry forward
    • Paul to reach out to Raychelle (CDAMG candidate) to determine if she has direct participation in HL7 meetings, both face to face and calls, as we would like to see attendance at 2 out of 3 WGMs and regular participation on calls/in WG activities. Also need to ask about ballot participation/lack of voting membership.
      • Raychelle responded to Paul. She has participated in Connectathons, CCDA impelmentationathons and WGMs. She is available for weekly conference calls. Can’t travel internationally at this point.
        • MOTION to recommend Raychelle to the TSC for CDAMG to complete Dale Nelson’s term: Lorraine/Austin
        • VOTE: All in favor
  • Discussion Topics
    • Balloted vs. non-balloted feedback
      • Concern over opportunity for non-balloted comments to be considered parallel with balloted votes. The heart of it is member feedback vs. general public feedback. Ballot comments are member feedback and should be prioritized. Two issues are appropriateness of process and the business aspect of membership. Could create guidance that ballot comments are to be given priority over other comments. Guidance has already gone out to cochairs.
    • Newsletter content submitted by Steve Hufnagel
      • The reader would have the impression that this is an HL7-endorsed activity and direction. Lorraine: The note went out to multiple lists. Group reviews. Calvin: Should this be an issue for Wayne to deal with? Group agrees it falls under his purview. Austin: The project that this is all under hasn’t been approved by the TSC yet because it’s still under review by this group. Need to communicate to Steve and staff that this probably shouldn’t go out this time. Lorraine notes the HL7 logo with CLIM under it – is this official? As an alternative to yanking it, we could insist that there be a disclaimer saying that this is proposed but not approved. Another issue is that this is very US-centric but it claims. This is emerging work that has been proposed but not yet fully accepted by HL7. Discussion over all the different groups doing mapping with different, uncoordinated approaches.
        • ACTION: Recommend to TSC that since the work has been proposed but not yet fully accepted by HL7, either a disclaimer should go on the article that the material is preliminary or the article should be pulled from the September newsletter.
        • ACTION: Add mapping coordination to parking lot
        • ACTION: Add to TSC agenda
        • ACTION: Add to next week: look at details to see if there are inaccuracies in the article
  • Carry forward:
  • Parking Lot
    • Continued discussion: Tasks in step 1 of the BAM – add to 2018-06-27 agenda
    • Normative balloting/continuous balloting in FHIR – add to 2018-06-27 agenda
      • Add link to Confluence page from ARB page
    • Review of project management life cycle spec to see if it talks about project and ballot scope
    • Review of MG responses to SGB query on substantive change
    • Need to make sure that SGB is accurately reflected in the GOM, and figure out what precepts should appear in the GOM
    • Review Mission and Charter
    • Drafting Shared Product Management Responsibilities
    • Technical Alignments Between Product Families
    • How groups are to interact with publishing, EST, Vocabulary, etc.
    • Precept on bringing in large projects
    • Vocabulary - review HTA material for precepts
    • Precept for adding new tools (include that WGs with a specific mandate must be involved, such as EST, Publishing, Vocabulary, etc.) - was this covered by the tooling precept we created in New Orleans?
    • BAM guidance on process for product adoption
    • Create PRECEPTS that require that it be articulated in the standards how the value sets specified within the standards respond to changes in regulation, licensing, time, etc.- to do in April/before Cologne
    • FHIR Product Director Position Description: we should 1) review further and draft feedback, then 2) map back the description to the role of FGB
    • Ownership of content
    • What precepts do we need to address PSS/profile approval processes of balloting and publishing potentially thousands of CIMI model?

Meeting Outcomes

Actions
Next Meeting/Preliminary Agenda Items

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