2017-07-19 SGB Conference Call

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Location:
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Date: 2017-07-19
Time: 10:00 AM Eastern
Facilitator Paul/Calvin Note taker(s) Anne
Attendee Name


x Calvin Beebe
x Lorraine Constable
Russ Hamm
x Tony Julian
x Paul Knapp
x Austin Kreisler
Wayne Kubick
Mary Kay McDaniel
Ken McCaslin
x Rik Smithies
x Sandy Stuart


Quorum: Chair + 4

Agenda

  • Agenda review
  • Approve Minutes of 2017-07-12_SGB_Conference_Call
  • Action Items
    • Once approved, send boilerplate template to management groups
    • Paul to find principles document and write precept on mixed ballot content
    • Paul to draft a precept on state machine alignment
    • Austin to follow up with Thom Kuhn regarding SGB candidacy
    • Anne to add reappointments/new members to TSC agenda
    • Anne to add VMR issue to TSC agenda
  • Discussion Topics
    • Continued discussion on Grahame's document re: variance from normal balloting/publishing process
    • Review vitality assessment slide deck from Tony
    • State Machine Alignment, continued
    • From PLA: Scope transition/abandonment
    • Revisit our current precepts and add who our precepts apply to and how they are to be implemented
    • Review PIC document on balloting best practices
  • Parking Lot
    • Review Publishing M&C updates regarding dual roles
    • Write/post precept on vitality assessment
    • Next steps on Substantivity (from ARB)
    • How do we deal with making sure that WGs involve those whose content domain they’re touching? (CIMI and Pharmacy and Lab models)
    • Review Mission and Charter
    • PSS approval process: managing unresponsive parties - propose new precept to TSC
    • Handling situations where two documents come out of one project
    • FHIR Product Director Position Description: we should 1) review further and draft feedback, then 2) map back the description to the role of FGB
    • Drafting Shared Product Management Responsibilities
    • Vocabulary precepts
    • General precepts
      • Precept around training WGs in CDA methodology and management principles
    • Levels of standards
    • Separation of concerns
    • Ownership of content
    • ISM
    • Ask methodology groups to define how the definition of substantive change applies to their product family; management groups must then operationalize
  • Agenda items for San Diego
    • Re-appointments to SGB

Minutes

  • Agenda review
  • Approve Minutes of 2017-07-12_SGB_Conference_Call
    • MOTION to approve: Austin/Tony
    • VOTE: All in favor
  • Action Items
    • Once approved, send boilerplate template to management groups
      • ACTION: Austin will make edit recommended by TSC regarding voting and send on to management groups
    • Paul to find principles document and write precept on mixed ballot content
      • Add for next week
    • Paul to draft a precept on state machine alignment
      • Add for next week
    • Austin to follow up with Thom Kuhn regarding SGB candidacy
      • Complete
    • Anne to add reappointments/new members to TSC agenda
      • Complete
    • Anne to add VMR issue to TSC agenda
      • Complete
    • Paul to develop detailed list of 23 items for FHIR ballot that were approved by WG to be STUs
  • Discussion Topics
    • VMR content review
      • TSC decided on Monday to let everything go ahead to ballot and ask that some members of the content review task force to ensure that the changes were made. Those people who were on the task force were Austin, Tony, Lorraine, Paul, Ken Rubin, Pat Van Dyke.
    • CIMI update
      • PLA meeting with CIMI was postponed. Group including Stan is coming to OO today to discuss projects. Discussion over why their ballot item is informative. They also need to include II WG on anything they're doing with DICOM. In terms of product family formation, we moved that to PLA but PLA hasn't met. Austin can't meet at the current time so PLA may need to be rescheduled.
    • Continued discussion on Grahame's document re: variance from normal balloting/publishing process
      • ACTION: Paul to develop detailed list of 23 items for FHIR ballot that were approved by WG to be STUs
    • Review vitality assessment slide deck from Tony
      • Group reviews. Purpose of this is to understand product maturity and vitality. Proactive approach to governance. Tony suggests that people review on their own as well. Lorraine: When we've tried to apply it, it can be a lightweight process. Originally looked at this 5 or 6 years ago and was discussed on TSC at least once. Is this something we need to address in a light or heavy form, or do others need to address this? We already have some policies in place that reflect this that fit in with vitality assessment. In a sense, some of this is baked in already. May want to incorporate formal triggers. Could be useful in next assessment of FGB, which should happen before September's joint FGB/SGB meeting.
        • Anne to add FGB review on first week in August agenda
      • Should we recirculate the deck through TSC? Decision that it might be useful in January timeframe.
    • State Machine Alignment, continued
      • FGB minutes on the topic from 2017-06-19. Concern that fundamental issues weren't recognized. Decision to schedule a joint call with FGB to discuss with invitation to Lisa Nelson to attend as well. Discussion over using identical terms differently in different standards such as Status; need policies around this.
        • ACTION: Ask FGB and Lisa about availability; do a Doodle poll for either the FGB time or the SGB time for the week of the 14th.
    • Lorraine notes that she is working with Wayne on making sure that FHIR material is moved to HL7-managed Github.
  • Adjourned at 11:05 AM Eastern

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