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ARB - Meeting (Date in Title)


  1. Call to order
  2. Roll Call
  3. Approval of Agenda
  4. Approval of Previous Minutes
  5. Guided tour of the BAM model and metamodel
  6. Report from Architecture Project
  7. FHIR
    1. Management
    2. Governance Board
  8. Other business and planning
    1. Agenda for Phoenix WGM
  9. Adjournment

Meeting Information

HL7 ArB Work Group Meeting Minutes

Location: Telcon

Date: 20130103
Time: 4:00pm U.S. Eastern
Facilitator Parker, Ron Note taker(s) Julian, Tony
Attendee Name Affiliation
X Bond,Andy NEHTA
X Constable, Lorraine Constable Consulting Inc.
. Curry, Jane Health Information Strategies
X Dagnall, Bo HP Enterprise Services
. Grieve, Grahame Health Intersections Pty Ltd
X Hufnagel, Steve U.S. Department of Defense, Military Health System
X Julian, Tony Mayo Clinic
. Loyd, Patrick ICode Solutions
X Lynch, Cecil Accenture
X Mead, Charlie National Cancer Institute
X Milosevic, Zoran Deontik Pty Ltd
X Parker, Ron CA Infoway
. Quinn, John Health Level Seven, Inc.
. Guests
X Kreisler, Austin HL7 TSC Chair
. Luthra, Anil NCI
X Pech, Brian Kaiser Permanente
. Legend
X Present
. Absent
R Regrets
Quorum Requirements Met: Yes


  1. Approval of Agenda and Previous Minutes
    1. Motion to approve minutes and Agenda (Lorraine/Zoran)
    2. Vote (8-0-0)
  2. NOTE: All comments not attributed to others are from Ron Parker
  3. Report from Architecture Project
    1. Planning session for Product line program Friday, January 4, 2013
    2. Need clear understanding of the BAM in Phoenix
    3. Need feedback on FHIR Governance/Management/Methodology to apply to existing set of products such as CDA.
    4. Kickoff will be in Phoenix. STRUCDOC is planning on working on this in Phoenix.
  4. FHIR
    1. Management - Ron Parker
      1. Looking for precepts.
      2. Root cause of problems is that there are elements of the business architecture lifecycle that are in the precepts. The BAM will let me know if it is complete.
      3. Precepts are life-cycle aware, SAIF awareness is under investigation.
      4. Had problems developing policies. We had a list, but we did not do a proper assessment exercise. A lot of what falls out is a result of that - what do we want to achieve, and what will prevent it.
        1. How do we recogize them
        2. How do we mitigate them
      5. Will be informed by the BAM model.
      6. There is a role of 'Governance Specialist'. I am not, but Charlie is qualified.
      7. Austin: Create a pool of 'governance facilitators' or 'governance specialists'.
      8. There is a dramatic change in the open-ness to this approach.
      9. Trying to spreadsheet, but there are a few many-to-many relationships that cannot be expressed in a spreadsheet.
      10. I talk about processes in the spreadsheet, governance, not development processes.
      11. The RISK work needs to be put forward for our Saturday work.
      12. Austin: Will send link to Ron - need to looking at it. Will discuss at the Saturday TSC meeting. Some items are active issues that need managed, and line up with strategic initiatives.
      13. For FHIR we need to do a RISK process, illustrate how we go through the risk assessment process.
      14. Charlie:WHen I was on the RISK assessment task force, I thought we had a document
      15. Austin: Minor modifications - not doing a fine-grained analysis of the likelyhood. Needs to be specialized to a product line.
      16. Harvested stuff from Earl's document. There is an issue of metrics that need to be filled out.
      17. Charlie: You dont get the precepts until you get the risks, and guidelines for management, so they become groupers.
      18. FHIR team will be able to tell us what to put in the slots.
    2. Governance Board
  5. Guided tour of the BAM model and metamodel
    1. Defered to Saturday of WGM
  6. Other business and planning
    1. Agenda for Phoenix WGM
    2. Saturday prior to WGM AbdulMalik Shakir will be providing a walk-thru of the meta-model
    3. Ron or Charlie will be at TSC, the other at the ArB
    4. Historical conversation with the FHIR core team. Will adjust the agenda after discussion.
    5. Q2-Q3 will continue with the BAM that can be presented to the TSC product line architecture meeting.
      1. What do we need to provide the TSC on Sunday?
      2. Austin: Will be timebound at that meeting due to Fellow dinner.
    6. Tuesday Q4 Agenda is not fixed.
    7. Thursday Q3, Q4 Wrapup from week and planning for the future.
    8. Austin: All day HL7 Board meeting may recast the future.
    9. Ron: Anytime anything at the organization level changes, we must redo the Risk assessment.
    10. Austin: We are in for a big one.
    11. Charlie: I will show you a few slides at the TSC meeting on the vitality trigger outcome.
    12. Ron: Have vehicle to provide structured feedback.
    13. No meeting for next week.
  7. Adjournment
    1. Adjourned at 4:40PM Eastern