2012-09-10 PA WGM Minutes

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Patient Administration Work Group Meeting - Monday September 10, 2012

Monday Q3

HL7 Patient Administration Meeting Minutes

Location: Convention Center, Room 331

Date: 2010-10-04
Time: Monday Q3
Facilitator Line Saele Note taker Alex de Leon
Attendee Name Affiliation
X Helen Drijfhout HL7 Netherlands
X Christian Hay GS1
X Line Saele Helse Vest IKT Norway
X Alex de Leon Kaiser Permanente
Quorum Requirements Met (Chair + 2 members): yes

Agenda

Agenda Topics

  1. Welcome/Introductions
  2. Agenda review and approval
    • Motion: Approve agenda
  3. Review Mission and Charter
  4. Decision Making Practices review and approval
    • Motion: Approve revised Decision Making Practices
  5. Work Plan review


Supporting Documents

Minutes

Minutes/Conclusions Reached:

  1. Welcome/Introductions
  2. Review and Approve Agenda

The WG changed the agenda replacing Interdependent registries work on Wed Q4 with an item to discuss patient/person registry issues.

    • Motion (made by Alex/ seconded by Helen ): Approve agenda as modified
    • Vote: 3 / 0 / 0 (for, against, abstain)
  1. Review Mission & Charter
    • Motion (made by Alex/ seconded by Christian): Accept revised mission and charter.
    • Discussion:
    • Vote: 3 / 0 / 0
    • Motion (made by Alex/ seconded by Helen): Accept revised DMP
    • Discussion:
    • Vote: 3 / 0 / 0
  2. Review Work Plan
    • The WG decided to postpone the work on the 3 year work plan for Irma to be present to help with the updates to that during the last WGM.

Meeting Outcomes

Actions (Include Owner, Action Item, and due date)
Next Meeting/Preliminary Agenda Items
  • .

Monday Q4

HL7 Patient Administration Meeting Minutes

Location: Convention Center, Room 331

Date: 2010-10-04
Time: Monday Q4
Facilitator Line Saele Note taker Alex de Leon
Attendee Name Affiliation
X Helen Drijfhout HL7 Netherlands
X Christian Hay GS1
X Line Saele Helse Vest IKT Norway
X Alex de Leon Kaiser Permanente
Quorum Requirements Met (Chair + 3 members): Yes

Agenda

Agenda Topics

  1. Patient ID – Presented by Christian Hay
    • Scope
    • Timelines
    • Deliverables
    • Resources

Supporting Documents

Minutes

Minutes/Conclusions Reached:

  1. Patient ID'
    • Christian Hay, representing GS1, continued discussions from the Vancouver WGM in January regarding Patient identification.

He presented the Health Informatics - Automatic identification and data capture marking and labelling - Subject of care and Individual Provider Identification technical specification which is being balloted at ISO. The question came up of how can an ISO document be balloted in HL7?

He is interested in cross referencing this to modeling concepts that would coincide with HL7 modeling elements. This might produce a ballot to support this specification.

To begin this work Line rightly proposed a project scope statement.

In further discussion, it was clarified that, today, there are devices that read patient identification information from a bar code (GS1) which then gets sent to a system. How that happens is unknown. This specification is an attempt to set a framework, leveraging current practices for these processes.

Christian once again clarified that his specification is about data capture and identifier structure. However, it does not talk about processing, or communication to another device or a system. This is the effort; to seek a project for the processing (communication) of this data to a receiving source. Herein is the focus of the project scope statement. The WG is requested to assist in identifying the message types that might be in use for the communication of this data.

Line will take on crafting the project scope statement for this. Christian will provide at least 2 implementers, as required.

The idea was floated to merely extend the patient identifiers in the current vocabulary to include GS1 identifiers.

The WG has noted that the patient id is one to many. So since the GS1 ID is an instance identifier, wondering if this could be represented by a patient identifier.

We will need to contact vocab experts (Ted Klein or Lloyd Macenzie).

  1. Timeline
  2. Deliverables
  3. Resources
  4. Conclusions
  5. Motion (Made by /Seconded by ) Move to adjourn for the day Vote: 0 /0 / 0
  6. Adjourn at 5pm

Meeting Outcomes

Actions (Include Owner, Action Item, and due date)
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Next Meeting/Preliminary Agenda Items
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