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August 04, 2015 Security WG Conference Call

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Attendees

x Member Name x Member Name x Member Name
x Mike DavisSecurity Co-chair . Duane DeCouteau . Chris Clark
x John MoehrkeSecurity Co-chair Johnathan Coleman . Aaron Seib
x Alexander Mense Security Co-chair . Ken Salyards . Christopher Brown TX
. Trish WilliamsSecurity Co-chair . Gary Dickinson x Silver
x Kathleen Connor . Ioana Singureanu . Mohammed Jafari
. Suzanne Gonzales-Webb . Darrell Woelk . Galen Mulrooney
x Diana Proud-Madruga Grahame Grieve . William Kinsley
x Rick Grow Chethan Makoahalli Lloyd McKenzie
x Debbie Bucci Bill Kleinebecker [

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Agenda DRAFT

  1. ( 5 min) Roll Call, Agenda Approval
  2. ( 5 min) Approve July 28 Meeting Minutes,
  3. ( 5 min) PASS Access Control Conceptual Model (SOA) Update - Diana, Don Jorgenson
  4. (10 min) ACS model - Mike/Dave Silver
  5. ( 5 min) Joint Vocabulary Alignment Update - Diana
  6. ( 5 min) PSAF Update - Kathleen (same as agenda item #7/done at same meeting)
  7. ( 5 min) Status of Provenance and AuditEvent subcommittee -- Kathleen/John
  8. ( 15 min) FHIR Security Discussion Block Vote for approval August 4
  9. ( 5 min) October 2015 HL7 WGM - Atlanta, Georgia USA - agenda items
    1. Please send any agenda items to Suzanne

FHIR AuditEvent Discussion -- removed from block vote

  • 8123 AuditEvent constraints are too tight (Lloyd McKenzie) Persuasive

FHIR AuditEvent Block Vote

  • 7565 2015May core #856
  • 7432 2015May core #720 - AuditEvent requestor (Helen Broberg) Not Persuasive- Fix link (Kathleen Connor) Not Persuasive with Mod
  • 6233 AuditEvent confusion on 'idenfier' elements that are actually strings. Affects understanding as well as search (which should not be token) (John Moehrke) Persuasive with Mod
  • 6269 AuditEvent needs a Participant userId type code to explain how to understand the value in userId (e.g. Patient ID in CX form) (John Moehrke) Persuasive with Mod
  • 7431 2015May core #719 - AuditEvent source identifier (Helen Broberg) Persuasive with Mod
  • 7564 2015May core #855 - AuditEvent.event value set is a mess (Kathleen Connor) Persuasive with Mod

Meeting Minutes

Agenda approved (Mike Davis/Suzanne)

Meeting Minutes for July 21 were unanimously approved (Mike/Diana)

We have a final Access Control framework

  • Requirements set up for services, capabilities in the framework
  • Needs to be presented so that we can receive comments (post to Security list serve?)
  • First draft to be sent out by Diana at the end of this week

EHRS + PHRS FMs + RM-ES on FHIR

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  • 7565 2015May core #856
    • tabled, discussion
    • pulled from block vote
  • 7432 2015May core #720 - AuditEvent requestor (Helen Broberg) Not Persuasive- Fix link (Kathleen Connor) Not Persuasive with Mod
  • 6233 AuditEvent confusion on 'idenfier' elements that are actually strings. Affects understanding as well as search (which should not be token) (John Moehrke) Persuasive with Mod
  • 6269 AuditEvent needs a Participant userId type code to explain how to understand the value in userId (e.g. Patient ID in CX form) (John Moehrke) Persuasive with Mod
  • 7431 2015May core #719 - AuditEvent source identifier (Helen Broberg) Persuasive with Mod
  • 7564 2015May core #855 - AuditEvent.event value set is a mess (Kathleen Connor) Persuasive with Mod
    • tabled, discussion
    • pulled from block vote
    • documentation needs to be recorded (audit event); the front material for audit events should be clear that there is an expectation of use of profiling to give specific guidance (i.e., profiles will be required)
    • we will ensure the documentation is sufficient to inform implementers that these are example value sets, that other value sets or sub-sets can be in the profile
    • item will be returned to the block vote

8123 - ATNA does not do FHIR resources

  • we need a pointer to a resource (currently exclusive one or the other)
  • we will remove the exclusiveness

MOTION: Block vote for today does not include 7565; added 8123 (Mike/Kathleen) questions on 7564 - (Mike Davis)

  • John will make the change to add ASTM E2147 to 7564 FHIR AuditEvent (friendly amendment Mike/Kathleen)

Objections/Abstentions: None; Approval: 10

Meeting adjourned at 1204 PST --Suzannegw (talk) 17:13, 4 August 2015 (EDT)