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ITS - Orlando, FL - January 2016

Monday, January 11

Q1

chair: Dale Nelson scribe: Andy Stechishin

No Quorum

Q2

chair: Dale Nelson scribe: Andy Stechishin

No quorum

Q4

chair: Dale Nelson scribe: Andy Stechishin

Joint with FHIR

FMG report

• tighter validation in build
• new resource proposals due Feb 9
• Mar 13 (v2.1) content freeze, July 17 (v3) content freeze
• FHIR ballot process feedback

FHIR Tracker Items:

• 8666 - on hold pending decision on 8814
• 8814 - pending on definition of FMM5 community process and execution of process
• 8773 - resolved - see tracker
• 8930 - resolved - see tracker
• 9048 - resolved - see tracker
• 9049 - resolved - see tracker
• 9092 - resolved - see tracker

Wednesday, January 13

Q1

chair: Dale Nelson scribe: Andy Stechishin

On telecon Tony Malia, Eric Prud'hommeaux, Marc Twagirumukiza, Chris Stoeckert

DB overviewed the requirements. most importantly, mappings for instance data for a round trip between FHIR instances and other exchanges content models (HL7 v2). More than 1/2 way, not able to assess the difficulty of the remaining items. Tony sense was that the remaining word is considerable. DB commented that there may be some wholesale mapping but this point is contentious among the group.

DB discussed the project deliverables. There was much discussion on adding a tab to the FHIR resource pages for RDF and how that content would appear/be described.

When discussing the Shape Expression deliverable, the topic of FHIR-Path was raised. There was discussion on whether FHIR-Path and Shape Expressions were swappable, should one take preference over the other, what are the similarities and differences between the technologies. DN announced that it appears that FHIR-Path will be coming under ITS for its development.

Tony commented on the lack of a test suite and the group wondered if there was a suite to validate the XML<-->JSON round-tripping in FHIR. AS commented that the AEGIS suite has some testing capabilites but was unsure of the extent. It was wondered if AEGIs would extend into the RDF realm. Eric offered to do some work but needed a contact and a pair to see the work move forward. DN would provide a contact at AEGIS (Richard Ettema was suggested). Eric did comment that because of the amount of work he currently is shouldering, he would need a partner in this effort. It was noted by DB that having a test suite is important and should be listed with the other deliverables.

Motion: Merge deliverables 1 (FHIR RDF page) and 2 (FHIR Ontology page) into a single deliverable with a single page DB/Tony 11-0-1

AS will help Tony with formatting and DB would help with content. The initial change would be developed prior to the interface into the FHIR change management process. Tony will convert his content into XHTML then post to GitHub for collaborative editing from the group to bring to a state suitable for the engagement of the FHIR change management process.

MvdZ offered to help with deliverable 4 (FHIR spec build process)

The question of the tab on the resource page for RDF. Marc suggested a readable format of the ShEX. The consensus was to use ShEX as the notional content for the RDF tab with confirmation to occur later.

DB will follow up offline with Chris to see how the meetings can be made more productive for Chris

Q2

chair: Dale Nelson scribe: Andy Stechishin

DN gave an overview of the events in AID leading to the current quarter meeting.

Motion: Create a PSS to evaluation Query/Mapping languages - Ken Lord

A long discussion on the use of languages for query, for mapping, definition of new things in HL7 only, other applicable uses, using RDF and so forth. Some of the contention was whether to include mapping in the PSS definition. During this discussion, the group was unable to come to consensus on proposed wording changes to the original motion.

Motion withdrawn

Motion: Create a PSS to explore relationship between CQL and FHIR-Path Bryn/Ewout 7-0-2

Attendance

Name	Init.	Affiliation	Email	Monday				Tuesday				Wednesday
				Q1	Q2	Q3	Q4	Q1	Q2	Q3	Q4	Q1	Q2	Q3	Q4
STECHISHIN, Andy	AS	CANA Software & Services Ltd.	andy.stechishin@gmail.com	×	×		×					×	×
NELSON, Dale	DN	Accenture	dale.m.nelson@accenture.com	×	×		×					×	×
KNAPP, Paul	PK	Knapp Consulting Inc.	pknapp@pknapp.com				×
MANDEL, Joshua	JM	Boston Children's Hospital	Joshua.Mandel@childrens.harvard.edu				×						×
PEYTCHEV, Vassil	VP	Epic	vassil@epic.com				×					×	×
BOOTH, David	DB	Hokukahu	david@dbooth.org									×
SHAFARMAN, Mark	MS	Shafarman Consulting	mark.shafarman@earthlink.net									×
VAN DER ZEL, Michael	MV	HL7 Netherlands	m.van.der.zel@umcg.nl									×
SWAIN, Ashley	ASw	ESAC	ashley.swain@esacinc.com									×	×
PECH, Brian	BP	Kaiser Permanente	bpech@outlook.com									×	×
KRAMER, Ewout	EK	Furore	e.kramer@furore.com										×
GRENZ, Chris	CGz	Analysts International	chris.grenz@analysts.com										×
SHEKLETON, Kevin	KSh	Cerner Corporation	kshekleton@cerner.com										×
KULKARNI, Vinayak	VKu	Cerner Corporation	Vinayak.kulkarni@cerner.com										×
SHAPIRO, Ron	RSh	Qvera	ron@quera.com										×
MCINTYRE, Andrew	AM	Medical-Objects	andrew@medical-objects.com.ay										×
SONG, Joon Hyun	JHS	IHIS Research Center in Kyungpook National University	jhsong6135@naver.com										×
BAE, Sungchul	SB	Kyungpook National University	scbae@knu.uc.kr										×
NICHOLS, Jared	JN	Wolters Kluwer Health	jared.nichols@wolterskluwer.com										×
RHODES, Bryn	BR	Database Consulting Group	bryn@databaseconsultinggroup.com										×
BERNHARDT, Peter	PB	McKesson Corporation	Peter.Bernhardt@relayhealth.com										×
ETTEMA, Richard	RE	AEGIS.net, Inc.	richard.ettema@aegis.net										×
SHANBHAG, Avinash	AvS	Office of the National Coordinator for Health IT	avinash.shanbhag@hhs.gov										×
KRAMER, Mark	MK	The MITRE Corporation	MKRAMER@mitre.org										×
WANG, Yunwei	YW	Intelligent Medical Objects (IMO)	Ywang@imo-online.com										×
LORD, Ken	KL	MDIx	klordmdmi@gmail.com										×
SETHI, Kanwarpreet	KPS	Lantana Consulting Group	kp.sethi@lantanagroup.com										×
SKAPIK, Julia	JSk	Office of the National Coordinator for Health IT	Julia.Skapik@hhs.gov										×
MAJEED, Raphael	RMj	University Oldenburg	rapheal.majeed@uni-oldenburg.de										×
HADLEY, Marc	MHa	Mitre	mhadley@mitre.org										×