RIMBAA 201201 Minutes San Antonio

This is the RIMBAA WG agenda of the WGM (WGM #34) in San Antonio, January 2012

MON Q3 (Regency East #1, 13:45-15:00) RIMBAA joint with Tooling

1. Tooling WG hosts a joint meeting with RIMBAA
2. Tools for RIM based software development
   • to discuss.
   • Standardized resources to be incorporated into software as APIs are being discussed in MnM from Grahame’s FHIR.
   • to discuss how RIMBAA uses the datatypes reference.

TUE Q6 (LiveOak, 19:00-21:00) Tooling/MnM

1. Tooling/MnM (without formal involvement of RIMBAA)
   • MnM to host a 2-hour "informational session"/"roadshow" related to the topic of FHIR ("Fire", previously known as RFH). This is a "FHIR 101" session.

WED Q0 (Bowie A, 07:00-08:00) Education

1. This is a free "RIMBAA Overview" presentation. It covers the various RIMBAA architectural principles; focusing on the use of the RIM other than for the purposes of interoperability.

WED Q6 (Nueces, 19:00-21:00)

1. RIMBAA meeting
   • No entry-level FHIR content this quarter, given the Tuesday Q6 session
2. FHIR implementation topics (Ewout Kramer, Lloyd McKenzie)
   • This session will focus on some of the hot FHIR topics; notably those where feedback/discussion is desired.
3. RIMBAA Reference Implementation
   • This topic was discussed during the last RIMBAA meeting in Amsterdam, where it was suggested we re-affirm the following statement during this meeting: "for a reference implementation we're depending on projects, we won't be building a reference implementation from scratch".

THUR Q1 (Nueces, 09:00-10:30)

1. RIMBAA meeting
2. Development of a terminology server with a "CTS-II Based Application Architecture"
   • The University of Applied sciences in Dortmund, Germany, in a project led by Prof. Dr. Peter Haas, has developed an open source terminology server. The internal structures, inclusive of the persistence layer, are based on an extended version of the CTS II data model. Extensions to the model were made to deal with things like licensing / access control, and multilingual support. The extended model was used to generate the CTS II service definitions as well as the database schema.
3. RIM with Domain Driven Design (DDD) principles applied (George de la Torre)
   • George: The talk will be comprised on two main topics (1) explain how RIM works as a transactional command model while being flexible for application uses cases, and (2) FHIR proposal (previoulsy known as RFH) and how a RIMBAA could relate with implementation.
4. Discussion to help finalize the RIM Based Persistence whitepaper.

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MON Q2 (11:00-12:30)

1. Rene calls to order at 11:05
2. Administrative agenda items
   • Agenda Review/Additions/Changes
     • Rene: we had to move the presentation by George de la Torre, originally scheduled for this quarter, to Thursday Q1.
     • Thhe agenda for the week was approved by general consensus
   • Approval of the minutes of the Amsterdam RIMBAA Meeting (Nov.2011)
     • MOTION to approve the minutes of the RIMBAA meeting held in Amsterdam on November 15th, in the version as documented at the http://www.hl7.org/documentcenter/public/wg/java/minutes/20111115_RIMBAA_Minutes.zip URL (Ewout/Michael, 8-0-1).
   • Announcements
     • Rene: there's a RIMBAA co-chair election this week. Please vote.
     • Peter: I'll be presenting some new features of the IHTSDO terminology toolbench in Vocab WG, Thursday Q3.
   • Tooling liason update (Michael)
     • Michael: the liason is supposed to update the respective groups with relevenat issues from the other group. I created a tools requirements page for RIMBAA; other than that we have a tooling agenda item later this quarter.
   • Review of the highlights of the Amsterdam RIMBAA Meeting
     • Rene, whilst browsing the minutes of the Amsterdam meeting, mentions some of the more interesting aspects, in order to allow those who weren't present to look at certain presentations in more detail.
     • Rene: one of the interesting presentations was on Prosessium, a Tieto application.
       • Peter: did they use a SMIRF based persistence model, or is it a generic approach with full RIM support? Rene: the latter.
       • Peter: how about number of patients? Rene: it's used in production in Finland, multiple 100k patients.
     • We approved a minor change to the RIMBAA DMP
   • Review of RIMBAA in the HL7 Roadmap (modified to fit with the new 2012 Roadmap)
     • The changes were approved by general consensus. Ann notes that HL7 UK balloted the strategic initiatives to state that 'ease of implementation' includes the 'use of more generic tools' and 'the use of more generic skills'.
   • Review of the projects we're a (co-)sponsor of, see [1]
     • Project 688 shos us as supporting it; we have never seen the project plan nor endorsed it.
       • ACTION Michael to tal to the WG responsible for project 688 to ask for clarification as to whu RIMBAA is listed as a co-sponsor. He things in terms of subject of the project that there is no overlap with RIMBAA activities.
   • Planning of the next WGM in Gothenburg, Sweden (March 2012) and WGM in Vancouver, CA (May 2012)
3. Tools for RIM based software development
   • Review of the wiki page in preparation of the joint meeting with Tooling next quarter