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− | #**Austin suggests this be ironed out with the BAM-lite, and that Ron, Lloyd and interested TSC members assist ArB to iron this out in the coming week(s) | ||
#Methodology | #Methodology | ||
##BAM sections Review: | ##BAM sections Review: | ||
+ | ###[http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/hlbam2b/scmsvn/?action=browse&path=%2Ftrunk%2Fdocuments%2FBAM_Section_1_Purpose.docx&view=log Section 1 Purpose] | ||
###[http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/hlbam2b/scmsvn/?action=browse&path=%2Ftrunk%2Fdocuments%2Fbam_section_2_goals.docx&view=log Section 2 Goals](AMS) | ###[http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/hlbam2b/scmsvn/?action=browse&path=%2Ftrunk%2Fdocuments%2Fbam_section_2_goals.docx&view=log Section 2 Goals](AMS) | ||
###[http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/hlbam2b/scmsvn/?action=browse&path=%2Ftrunk%2Fdocuments%2FBAM_Section_3_vision.docx&view=log Section 3 Vision](Leadership) | ###[http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/hlbam2b/scmsvn/?action=browse&path=%2Ftrunk%2Fdocuments%2FBAM_Section_3_vision.docx&view=log Section 3 Vision](Leadership) | ||
###[http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/hlbam2b/scmsvn/?action=browse&path=%2Ftrunk%2Fdocuments%2Fbam_section_4_Business_architecture.docx&view=log section 4 Business Architecture Model] Bo | ###[http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/hlbam2b/scmsvn/?action=browse&path=%2Ftrunk%2Fdocuments%2Fbam_section_4_Business_architecture.docx&view=log section 4 Business Architecture Model] Bo | ||
− | ### Section 5 | + | ###[http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/hlbam2b/scmsvn/?action=browse&path=%2Ftrunk%2Fdocuments%2Fbam_section_5_Scope.docx&view=log Section 5 Scope] Andy - Done and approved |
###[http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/hlbam2b/scmsvn/?action=browse&path=%2Ftrunk%2Fdocuments%2Fbam_section_6_organizational_Precepts.docx&view=log Section 6 Organizational Precepts] Ron | ###[http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/hlbam2b/scmsvn/?action=browse&path=%2Ftrunk%2Fdocuments%2Fbam_section_6_organizational_Precepts.docx&view=log Section 6 Organizational Precepts] Ron | ||
###[http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/hlbam2b/scmsvn/?action=browse&path=%2Ftrunk%2Fdocuments%2Fbam_section_7_business_architecture.docx&view=log Section 7 Business Architecture] Bo, Ron, Jane | ###[http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/hlbam2b/scmsvn/?action=browse&path=%2Ftrunk%2Fdocuments%2Fbam_section_7_business_architecture.docx&view=log Section 7 Business Architecture] Bo, Ron, Jane | ||
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#Other business and planning | #Other business and planning | ||
#Adjournment | #Adjournment | ||
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==Meeting Information== | ==Meeting Information== | ||
{|border="1" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="0" | {|border="1" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="0" | ||
| width="50%" colspan="2" align="left" style="background:#f0f0f0;"|'''HL7 ArB Work Group Meeting Minutes''' <br/> | | width="50%" colspan="2" align="left" style="background:#f0f0f0;"|'''HL7 ArB Work Group Meeting Minutes''' <br/> | ||
'''Location: [[20100722_arb_minutes#logistics| Telcon]]''' | '''Location: [[20100722_arb_minutes#logistics| Telcon]]''' | ||
− | | width="50%" colspan="3" align="left" style="background:#f0f0f0;"|'''Date: | + | | width="50%" colspan="3" align="left" style="background:#f0f0f0;"|'''Date: 20131105'''<br/> '''Time: 5:00pm U.S. Eastern''' |
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| width="10%" colspan="1" align="right"|'''Facilitator''' | | width="10%" colspan="1" align="right"|'''Facilitator''' | ||
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|colspan="2"|NEHTA | |colspan="2"|NEHTA | ||
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|colspan="2"|Constable Consulting Inc. | |colspan="2"|Constable Consulting Inc. | ||
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|colspan="2"|Health Information Strategies | |colspan="2"|Health Information Strategies | ||
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|colspan="2"|HP Enterprise Services | |colspan="2"|HP Enterprise Services | ||
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|colspan="2"| U.S. Department of Defense, Military Health System | |colspan="2"| U.S. Department of Defense, Military Health System | ||
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|colspan="2"|Mayo Clinic | |colspan="2"|Mayo Clinic | ||
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|colspan="2"|Deontik Pty Ltd | |colspan="2"|Deontik Pty Ltd | ||
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|.||Quinn, John | |.||Quinn, John | ||
|colspan="2"|Health Level Seven, Inc. | |colspan="2"|Health Level Seven, Inc. | ||
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|colspan="2"|CANA Software and Service Ltd. | |colspan="2"|CANA Software and Service Ltd. | ||
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==Minutes== | ==Minutes== | ||
+ | #Approval of Agenda and [[20131029_arb_minutes | Minutes]] | ||
+ | ##'''MOTION''' to approve minutes and agenda(Ron/Lorraine) | ||
+ | ##'''VOTE''' 6-0-0 | ||
+ | #Governance | ||
+ | #*FHIR Governance Request from TSC | ||
+ | #**FGB-FMG communications, accountability, constituency | ||
+ | #**Looking at reporting against metrics for the precepts - Ron has not stood them up | ||
+ | #**TSC punted the decision to ArB to include in the BAM. | ||
+ | ##Ron is on both FMG and FGB. | ||
+ | #*Suggest that FMG have a voting roll in FGB | ||
+ | #*Lloyd proposed that a member of the FGB serve on FMG | ||
+ | #**Lorraine: FMG should have a way to express requirements to FMG. Currently disconnected. | ||
+ | #**Austin: I like it. | ||
+ | #**Chair of FMG serve on FGB. | ||
+ | #**Austin encourages FMG chair to communicate with the FGB. Lynn Laakso is the staff member assigned which provides the glue currently. | ||
+ | #**FGB/FMG would make revision of charter to broaden composition. | ||
+ | #**Ken McCaslin and John Quinn are currently the bottlenecks. Need to have ready by January WGM. | ||
+ | ##ArB needs to make sure that it is documented in the BAM, and brought to the TSC. | ||
+ | ##Product Director should be the glue. Lynn Laakso has been doing so, but HL7 will not be able to provide a staff member at the present time. Product Director should span product families. | ||
+ | ##Original thinking of CTO on all the groups was an idea, but it is not working. | ||
+ | ##Lloyd: Should we revisit the CTO being a voting member of the groups? | ||
+ | ##Austin: Right now, it is not practical. ExOfficio member may be more practical. CTO may be placeholder for that roll. | ||
+ | ###Next step is to document in the BAM. | ||
+ | #Methodology | ||
+ | ##BAM sections Review: | ||
+ | ###[http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/hlbam2b/scmsvn/?action=browse&path=%2Ftrunk%2Fdocuments%2Fbam_section_2_goals.docx&view=log Section 2 Goals](AMS) | ||
+ | ###[http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/hlbam2b/scmsvn/?action=browse&path=%2Ftrunk%2Fdocuments%2FBAM_Section_3_vision.docx&view=log Section 3 Vision](Leadership) | ||
+ | ###[http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/hlbam2b/scmsvn/?action=browse&path=%2Ftrunk%2Fdocuments%2Fbam_section_4_Business_architecture.docx&view=log section 4 Business Architecture Model] Bo Complete | ||
+ | ###[http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/hlbam2b/scmsvn/?action=browse&path=%2Ftrunk%2Fdocuments%2Fbam_section_5_Scope.docx&view=log Section 5 Scope] Andy - Done and approved | ||
+ | ###[http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/hlbam2b/scmsvn/?action=browse&path=%2Ftrunk%2Fdocuments%2Fbam_section_6_organizational_Precepts.docx&view=log Section 6 Organizational Precepts] Ron | ||
+ | ####Ron is behind will try to deliver next sunday. | ||
+ | ###[http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/hlbam2b/scmsvn/?action=browse&path=%2Ftrunk%2Fdocuments%2Fbam_section_7_business_architecture.docx&view=log Section 7 Business Architecture] Bo, Ron, Jane | ||
+ | ###Bo: Three diagrams missing - 1 Bo can do, 2 needs input from Ron. | ||
+ | ####Ron is behind will try to deliver next sunday. | ||
+ | ####Ron will communicate with Lorraine so she can finish section 8. | ||
+ | #Management | ||
+ | ##Review [http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/hlbam2b/tracker/?action=TrackerItemBrowse&tracker_id=691 to-do list] | ||
+ | ###SAIF tutorial (2674) is waiting on Ron. Logistics are underway, Ron needs to generate content. | ||
+ | ###Glossary - Zoran was in meetings last week. Will continue. | ||
+ | ###Glossary tools - Andy is still working on tooling. | ||
+ | ###Vitality Process - Ron can walk us through the process(drivers, and changes in the organization) | ||
+ | ####Did not have a quarter with enough people at the WGM. There are places where we are struggling. | ||
+ | ####Ron can facilitate for a call November 12, 2013 | ||
+ | ####Austin: Need organizational triggers from the Board, Membership committee, and TSC. | ||
+ | ####Need John Q and Ken McCaslin | ||
+ | ##Review/update [[Arb_BAM_Tasks| Arb BAM task list]] | ||
+ | ##Report from Architecture Project | ||
+ | ###Austin: Meeting tomorrow to put together a forum for product family initiation. WIll be mining the BAM. | ||
+ | ###Lorraine: Developing a SAIF-IG. There are useful artifacts coming out of the current work. | ||
+ | ###Lorraine: There was a comment from David Hays on the implementers guide from FHIR: He came out with the SAIF hat on separating the logical from the implementable. | ||
+ | ###Austin: I love it that people are using SAIF. | ||
+ | #Other business and planning | ||
+ | ##Lorraine: Loose ends from FHIR ballot recon. Some where "ask bo", and some need to be reopened and the dispositon changed. | ||
+ | ##Austin: Need to determine whether it affects the MnM block vote. | ||
+ | ##Reopening for clarification: | ||
+ | ###Item 21: Needs additional clarifying language: "resources can be further constrained for a specific use case by profiles" | ||
+ | ###Item 25: "ArB would like to re-visit to ensure that the scope is clearly defined and understood, and the interaction of Is-Modifier and Must Support is clear" | ||
+ | ###Item 41: - Answer did not answer the question "need to clarify if later(run-time) binding is allowed, and if so, how it is addressed" | ||
+ | ###* Zoran left | ||
+ | ###'''Motion''' remove Item 11, 18, 41, 52 from the bulk vote for dispositon by November 19, 2013(Lorraine/Andy) | ||
+ | ###'''Vote''' (6-0-0) | ||
+ | to reopen 21, 25, 41 on November 19, 2013 | ||
+ | #Adjournment | ||
[[Category:Arb Minutes]] | [[Category:Arb Minutes]] |
Latest revision as of 14:13, 8 November 2013
ARB - Meeting (Date in Title)
Agenda
- Call to order
- Roll Call
- Approval of Agenda and Minutes
- Governance
- FHIR Governance Request from TSC
- Austin suggests this be ironed out with the BAM-lite, and that Ron, Lloyd and interested TSC members assist ArB to iron this out in the coming week(s).
- FHIR Governance Request from TSC
- Methodology
- BAM sections Review:
- Section 1 Purpose
- Section 2 Goals(AMS)
- Section 3 Vision(Leadership)
- section 4 Business Architecture Model Bo
- Section 5 Scope Andy - Done and approved
- Section 6 Organizational Precepts Ron
- Section 7 Business Architecture Bo, Ron, Jane
- BAM sections Review:
- Management
- Review to-do list
- Review/update Arb BAM task list
- Report from Architecture Project
- Other business and planning
- Adjournment
Meeting Information
HL7 ArB Work Group Meeting Minutes Location: Telcon |
Date: 20131105 Time: 5:00pm U.S. Eastern | |||||
Facilitator | Julian, Tony/Constable, Lorraine | Note taker(s) | Julian, Tony//Constable, Lorraine | |||
Attendee | Name | Affiliation | ||||
X | Bond,Andy | NEHTA | ||||
X | Constable, Lorraine | Constable Consulting Inc. | ||||
. | Curry, Jane | Health Information Strategies | ||||
X | Dagnall, Bo | HP Enterprise Services | ||||
. | Hufnagel, Steve | U.S. Department of Defense, Military Health System | ||||
X | Julian, Tony | Mayo Clinic | ||||
. | Loyd, Patrick | ICode Solutions | ||||
. | Lynch, Cecil | Accenture | ||||
X | Milosevic, Zoran | Deontik Pty Ltd | ||||
X | Parker, Ron | CA Infoway | ||||
. | Quinn, John | Health Level Seven, Inc. | ||||
X | Stechishin,Andy | CANA Software and Service Ltd. | ||||
. | Guests | |||||
X | Kreisler, Austin | HL7 TSC Chair | ||||
. | Luthra, Anil | NCI | ||||
. | Pech, Brian | Kaiser Permanente | ||||
. | Shakir, Abdul Malik | City of Hope National Medical Center | ||||
. | Laakso, Lynn | HL7 | ||||
. | ||||||
. | Legend | |||||
X | Present | |||||
. | Absent | |||||
R | Regrets | |||||
Quorum Requirements (Co-chair + 3) Met: Yes |
Minutes
- Approval of Agenda and Minutes
- MOTION to approve minutes and agenda(Ron/Lorraine)
- VOTE 6-0-0
- Governance
- FHIR Governance Request from TSC
- FGB-FMG communications, accountability, constituency
- Looking at reporting against metrics for the precepts - Ron has not stood them up
- TSC punted the decision to ArB to include in the BAM.
- Ron is on both FMG and FGB.
- Suggest that FMG have a voting roll in FGB
- Lloyd proposed that a member of the FGB serve on FMG
- Lorraine: FMG should have a way to express requirements to FMG. Currently disconnected.
- Austin: I like it.
- Chair of FMG serve on FGB.
- Austin encourages FMG chair to communicate with the FGB. Lynn Laakso is the staff member assigned which provides the glue currently.
- FGB/FMG would make revision of charter to broaden composition.
- Ken McCaslin and John Quinn are currently the bottlenecks. Need to have ready by January WGM.
- ArB needs to make sure that it is documented in the BAM, and brought to the TSC.
- Product Director should be the glue. Lynn Laakso has been doing so, but HL7 will not be able to provide a staff member at the present time. Product Director should span product families.
- Original thinking of CTO on all the groups was an idea, but it is not working.
- Lloyd: Should we revisit the CTO being a voting member of the groups?
- Austin: Right now, it is not practical. ExOfficio member may be more practical. CTO may be placeholder for that roll.
- Next step is to document in the BAM.
- FHIR Governance Request from TSC
- Methodology
- BAM sections Review:
- Section 2 Goals(AMS)
- Section 3 Vision(Leadership)
- section 4 Business Architecture Model Bo Complete
- Section 5 Scope Andy - Done and approved
- Section 6 Organizational Precepts Ron
- Ron is behind will try to deliver next sunday.
- Section 7 Business Architecture Bo, Ron, Jane
- Bo: Three diagrams missing - 1 Bo can do, 2 needs input from Ron.
- Ron is behind will try to deliver next sunday.
- Ron will communicate with Lorraine so she can finish section 8.
- BAM sections Review:
- Management
- Review to-do list
- SAIF tutorial (2674) is waiting on Ron. Logistics are underway, Ron needs to generate content.
- Glossary - Zoran was in meetings last week. Will continue.
- Glossary tools - Andy is still working on tooling.
- Vitality Process - Ron can walk us through the process(drivers, and changes in the organization)
- Did not have a quarter with enough people at the WGM. There are places where we are struggling.
- Ron can facilitate for a call November 12, 2013
- Austin: Need organizational triggers from the Board, Membership committee, and TSC.
- Need John Q and Ken McCaslin
- Review/update Arb BAM task list
- Report from Architecture Project
- Austin: Meeting tomorrow to put together a forum for product family initiation. WIll be mining the BAM.
- Lorraine: Developing a SAIF-IG. There are useful artifacts coming out of the current work.
- Lorraine: There was a comment from David Hays on the implementers guide from FHIR: He came out with the SAIF hat on separating the logical from the implementable.
- Austin: I love it that people are using SAIF.
- Review to-do list
- Other business and planning
- Lorraine: Loose ends from FHIR ballot recon. Some where "ask bo", and some need to be reopened and the dispositon changed.
- Austin: Need to determine whether it affects the MnM block vote.
- Reopening for clarification:
- Item 21: Needs additional clarifying language: "resources can be further constrained for a specific use case by profiles"
- Item 25: "ArB would like to re-visit to ensure that the scope is clearly defined and understood, and the interaction of Is-Modifier and Must Support is clear"
- Item 41: - Answer did not answer the question "need to clarify if later(run-time) binding is allowed, and if so, how it is addressed"
- Zoran left
- Motion remove Item 11, 18, 41, 52 from the bulk vote for dispositon by November 19, 2013(Lorraine/Andy)
- Vote (6-0-0)
to reopen 21, 25, 41 on November 19, 2013
- Adjournment