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==Agenda==
 
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==Minutes==
 
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* We will review any MnM harmonization proposals next week.
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===Graphical Representation of RMIMs===
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* Two questions to answer today:
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** Will we support multiple formats?
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** What graphical format(s) will be acceptable?
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'''Will we support multiple formats?'''
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* Gregg asked if the agreed upon formats would be used for services.  The response was that the current discussion only concerns diagrams
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* Mead stated that it would probably be best to have one format so people reading the models would only have to understand one representation.
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* Ioana asked if the RIM would be represented in the agreed upon format.  This question was deemed to be out of scope for today's discussion.
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* We did a straw poll of preferred formats (people could vote for more than one format).  There were 7 votes for A, 8 votes for B, and 1 vote for C.
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** Both A and B require on standardized graphical format, but B also allows for the publishing of additional formats.
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** As use cases were discussed there seemed to be a consensus toward option B.
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** Woody questioned about whether alternate formats are really needed for normative ballots.  Not having alternate formats in the normative material would NOT prevent them from being used in other settings.
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* '''From a methodology perspective, we agree to support multiple formats.'''
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* We will seek publishing's input on how to support alternate formats.
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'''What graphical format(s) will be acceptable?'''
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* Lloyd discussed some of the issues around representing choices in other formalisms such as UML.
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* Dave discussed the value of being consistent with UML to take advantage of OTS UML tools.
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* Woody pointed out how valuable it is to have all of the semantics possible represented in a graphical view for review in the ballot, and having good tools supporting the creation of this view.
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* This discussion will be continued on the wiki and on next week's call.
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* Austin will conduct a straw poll of preference in the meantime.
  
  
 
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Latest revision as of 01:25, 21 May 2010

M&M Conference Call Noon Eastern Time (Date above)

Attendance

  • Lloyd McKenzie
  • Woody Beeler
  • Austin Kreisler
  • Andy Stechishin
  • Bernard Jackson
  • Craig Parker
  • Dave Carlson
  • Gregg Seppala
  • Patrick Loyd
  • Ioana Singureanu
  • Galen Mulrooney
  • Mead Walker
  • Dale Nelson
  • Adam Flinton
  • Leslie

Agenda

  • Graphical Representation of RMIMs (continued)

Minutes

  • We will review any MnM harmonization proposals next week.

Graphical Representation of RMIMs

  • Two questions to answer today:
    • Will we support multiple formats?
    • What graphical format(s) will be acceptable?

Will we support multiple formats?

  • Gregg asked if the agreed upon formats would be used for services. The response was that the current discussion only concerns diagrams
  • Mead stated that it would probably be best to have one format so people reading the models would only have to understand one representation.
  • Ioana asked if the RIM would be represented in the agreed upon format. This question was deemed to be out of scope for today's discussion.
  • We did a straw poll of preferred formats (people could vote for more than one format). There were 7 votes for A, 8 votes for B, and 1 vote for C.
    • Both A and B require on standardized graphical format, but B also allows for the publishing of additional formats.
    • As use cases were discussed there seemed to be a consensus toward option B.
    • Woody questioned about whether alternate formats are really needed for normative ballots. Not having alternate formats in the normative material would NOT prevent them from being used in other settings.
  • From a methodology perspective, we agree to support multiple formats.
  • We will seek publishing's input on how to support alternate formats.


What graphical format(s) will be acceptable?

  • Lloyd discussed some of the issues around representing choices in other formalisms such as UML.
  • Dave discussed the value of being consistent with UML to take advantage of OTS UML tools.
  • Woody pointed out how valuable it is to have all of the semantics possible represented in a graphical view for review in the ballot, and having good tools supporting the creation of this view.
  • This discussion will be continued on the wiki and on next week's call.
  • Austin will conduct a straw poll of preference in the meantime.



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