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* All security open http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/fhir/tracker/?action=TrackerItemBrowse&tracker_id=677&tracker_query_id=4967 | * All security open http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/fhir/tracker/?action=TrackerItemBrowse&tracker_id=677&tracker_query_id=4967 | ||
* September Ballot items must address by February 5, 2017 -- see http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=FHIR_Ballot_Prep | * September Ballot items must address by February 5, 2017 -- see http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=FHIR_Ballot_Prep | ||
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===Outline for Security & Privacy Module=== | ===Outline for Security & Privacy Module=== | ||
+ | Use this CR or create a set of new CR as needed. | ||
+ | **[http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/fhir/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=10579 10579] New Security and Privacy "Module" page needs content () | ||
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====Use of Security Labels==== | ====Use of Security Labels==== | ||
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==Minutes== | ==Minutes== | ||
* Chair | * Chair | ||
− | * Agenda | + | * approval of the Agenda - Kathleen/Glen: unanimous |
− | * | + | * approval of the [[HL7 FHIR Security 2016-11-29]] Minutes - Glen/Kathleen: unanimous |
+ | * Discussion on outline for security-labels | ||
+ | ** How would one detect the security-labels capabilities of another? | ||
+ | *** Not likely to be resolved for a few years. Today this is done in Trust-Framework building, prior to authentication credentials being issued. | ||
+ | ** Separation between discussion on how to manipulate and use security-labels from specific Access Control decision/enforcement architectures | ||
+ | *** Can use security-labels without converting fully to a compartment based access control | ||
+ | *** Is a difference between use of PurposeOfUse vocabulary as a security-label (data tagged), from uses as a request-context (saml, oauth, uma). There might be a relationship in policy, but no strict relationship is mandatory. | ||
+ | ** Therefore need to carefully craft new text to include common solutions, leaving bleeding edge cases out of the text. |
Latest revision as of 20:10, 12 December 2016
Contents
Call Logistics
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Attendees
Member Name | Member Name | Member Name | ||||||
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x | John Moehrke Security Co-Chair | x | Kathleen Connor Security Co-Chair | x | Suzanne Gonzales-Webb CBCC Co-Chair | |||
. | Gary Dickinson EHR Co-Chair | x | Johnathan ColemanCBCC Co-Chair | x | Mike Davis | |||
. | Reed Gelzer RM-ES Lead | x | Glen Marshal | . | Galen Mulrooney | |||
. | Dave Silver | . | Rob Horn | . | Judy Fincher | |||
. | Diana Proud-Madruga | . | Beth Pumo | . | Oliver Lawless | |||
. | Bob Dieterle | . | Mario Hyland | x | Joe Lamy | |||
. | Rick Grow | . | [mailto: Richard Etterma] | . | [mailto: Wayne Kubic] |
Agenda
- Roll;
- approval of agenda
- approval of the HL7 FHIR Security 2016-11-29 Minutes
- All security open http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/fhir/tracker/?action=TrackerItemBrowse&tracker_id=677&tracker_query_id=4967
- September Ballot items must address by February 5, 2017 -- see http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=FHIR_Ballot_Prep
- Discuss new item giving guidance on use of Security Labels - Kathleen
- Discuss Security & Privacy Module guidance on Access Control - John
- Discuss Action items
- Kathleen
- 9042 Add RBAC as value set for AuditEvent.participant.role ()
- 9043 Add ABAC as alternative value set for AuditEvent.participant.role ()
- 9052 Add SNOMED Stuctural Roles as value set for AuditEvent.participant.role ()
- 11071 Improve security label guidance - 2016-09 core #90 ()
- 10343 Three additional Signature.type codes ()
- 10382 Provenance activity codes are insufficient/inappropriate ()
- John
- Gary
- 6303 Add Record Lifecycle Events to AuditEventObjectLifecycle Set ()
- New business?
FHIR Security block vote
None in progress...
Outline for Security & Privacy Module
Use this CR or create a set of new CR as needed.
- 10579 New Security and Privacy "Module" page needs content ()
http://build.fhir.org/secpriv-module.html
Use of Security Labels
From email discussion between Kathleen and John -- Summary by John
The FHIR community is unclear on how how to use the security-labels. When is it appropriate to use each type. Where is it appropriate to use each type? Specifically what are the risks they need to consider.
I agree with this.. This is hardly understood by the core people in the security wg... I am however concerned at declaring any specific policy -- such as the sensitivity codes shall never be used.
Seems we could create a few scenarios that outline proper use, and include description of the security considerations that went into that use.
1) Use of HCS tags within a highly-trusted environment (All inside my security boundary, within my own trust environment. my own trust framework). -- This is minimally use between the Access Control services and the REST server, including use of an SLS to enable access control decisions. I could see this highly-trusted environment being bigger than this, but think that most people need to understand that exposing the full HCS security-labels does present a risk.
2) Exposure of Resources to a Moderate-Trusted environment (They are outside my security boundary, but we have a trust framework that assures me they can protect sensitive information and follow obligations) -- the HIE environment. As you say, where _confidentiality and obligations. This is where we can talk to Bundle being a high-water, of only the _confidentiality codes; and where obligations would go.
2.1 ) The placement of obligations seems important enough that we should have a specific scenario just for that, so as to highlight it.
3 ) Having a USA specific example using 42 would be useful too. This is a rollup of all the things we want to say. I think it is okay to be USA centric, but when we do this we should explain the situation in terms that are not overly USA centric.
4) Use of HCS tags when in a low-trusted environment (I trust they will not expose what I give them, but they have limited ability to protect highly sensitive information or to enforce obligations) -- Where you are going to block access to anything sensitive. Showing that blocking access might be silent, or might be explicit (we have outlined this in the http error codes for security). Both are useful policy choices.
4.1 ) do we include your concern around returning obligations only when you KNOW that the recipient will enforce them? It needs to be said somewhere. Here might be good place.
5) Always good to remind people that they are not to expose information when the trust is not there.
Not sure if it is proper to use highly-trusted, moderate-trusted, and low-trusted -- I think the trust framework is key
is this what you are proposing? Did I miss a concept? I think this would be a good discussion today.
Access Control
- Outline for a FAQ improvement on the module page
- Access Control
- Access Control diagram from Mike (Inputs – Decision – Enforcement – Outputs)
- Using OAuth
- Identity
- Leverage OpenID Connect
- Federate (cross-reference, mapping) to local identity descritions
- Informally, or Formally
- Roles
- Using Standard roles from HL7
- Using local codes
- Clearance
- Scopes
- Using SMART scopes
- Basic starter set
- Supports Organizational use-cases with simple consent
- Doesn’t support fine-grain
- Doesn’t support complex consent
- Using HEART – UMA
- Using SMART scopes
- Using Cascading Authorization Servers
- Bridging SMART and UMA and organizational requirements
- Identity
- Using Security labels
- HCS conformance
- MUST have a _confidentiality value (1..1)
- Use of persistence label
- Bundle use of security_tags – high-water
- Comprehensive security_tags on each resource communicated to a trusted peer
- Using security lables from a consent directive (privacy policy) on goverened resources
- Using Clearance with security labels
- HCS conformance
- Bring in stuff from the Privacy Consent Implementation Guide (Consent IG)
- TODO
- Should we create a new page, parellel with security.html -- privacy.html
- Privacy Principles
- Consent as a way to control Collection/Use/Disclosure
- ISO four models (In, Out, In with exceptions, Out with exceptions)
- Trust Framework
- impact on the Conformance resource published by partners.
- Establishing trust Contracts between trading partners
Minutes
- Chair
- approval of the Agenda - Kathleen/Glen: unanimous
- approval of the HL7 FHIR Security 2016-11-29 Minutes - Glen/Kathleen: unanimous
- Discussion on outline for security-labels
- How would one detect the security-labels capabilities of another?
- Not likely to be resolved for a few years. Today this is done in Trust-Framework building, prior to authentication credentials being issued.
- Separation between discussion on how to manipulate and use security-labels from specific Access Control decision/enforcement architectures
- Can use security-labels without converting fully to a compartment based access control
- Is a difference between use of PurposeOfUse vocabulary as a security-label (data tagged), from uses as a request-context (saml, oauth, uma). There might be a relationship in policy, but no strict relationship is mandatory.
- Therefore need to carefully craft new text to include common solutions, leaving bleeding edge cases out of the text.
- How would one detect the security-labels capabilities of another?