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* Approve agenda<br/> | * Approve agenda<br/> | ||
− | * Review | + | * Review PA mission & charter<br/> |
− | * Review | + | * Review PA decision making practice |
− | * Review | + | * Review PA 3-year work plan |
− | * Review SWOT Analysis | + | * Review SWOT Analysis |
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* [http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=2015-10_PA_WGM_Agenda May 2014 WGM] | * [http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=2015-10_PA_WGM_Agenda May 2014 WGM] | ||
*[http://www.hl7.org/Special/committees/pafm/overview.cfm PA mission & charter] | *[http://www.hl7.org/Special/committees/pafm/overview.cfm PA mission & charter] | ||
− | * [http://www.hl7.org/ | + | * [http://www.hl7.org/documentcenter/public/wg/pafm/2012-05-14_PA_DMPv4.docx PA decision making practice] |
− | * [http://www.hl7.org/ | + | * [http://www.hl7.org/documentcenter/public/wg/pafm/2015-10-05_PA_WGM_Work_Plan2015-2018.xlsx PA 3-year work plan] |
− | * | + | * [http://www.hl7.org/documentcenter/public/wg/pafm/2015-10-05%20PA%20SWOT.docx SWOT Analysis] |
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Introductions<br/> | Introductions<br/> | ||
− | The WG reviewed the agenda. The only changes are changes of chair from Irma to Line So that Q4 can | + | The WG reviewed the agenda. The only changes are changes of chair from Irma to Line So that Q4 can <br/> |
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Irma moved to approve the agenda with the above change. Alex seconded. | Irma moved to approve the agenda with the above change. Alex seconded. | ||
Vote (for/against/abstain): 10/0/0<br/> | Vote (for/against/abstain): 10/0/0<br/> | ||
The WG reviewed the PA mission & charter. <br/> | The WG reviewed the PA mission & charter. <br/> | ||
Irma moved to approve the mission and charter. Christian seconded. | Irma moved to approve the mission and charter. Christian seconded. | ||
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Vote (for/against/abstain): 10/0/0<br/> | Vote (for/against/abstain): 10/0/0<br/> | ||
The WG reviewed the decision making practice. Although Alex d brought up the potential changes that would be made per conversations of Q4 the day before, wherein the WG would have to inform other WGs if FHIR changes put into GForge affect interested WGs. | The WG reviewed the decision making practice. Although Alex d brought up the potential changes that would be made per conversations of Q4 the day before, wherein the WG would have to inform other WGs if FHIR changes put into GForge affect interested WGs. | ||
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Vote (for/against/abstain): 10/0/0<br/> | Vote (for/against/abstain): 10/0/0<br/> | ||
The WG continued to review the 3 year work plan. (Do we still retain this item? There was a question as to whether this would remain as a work group product).<br/> . | The WG continued to review the 3 year work plan. (Do we still retain this item? There was a question as to whether this would remain as a work group product).<br/> . | ||
− | The WG discussed the work to be done and what can be removed. In this discussion, the WG reviewed the current status of the FHIR resources. Brian noted that we have a resources at the following level | + | The WG discussed the work to be done and what can be removed. In this discussion, the WG reviewed the current status of the FHIR resources. Brian noted that we have a resources at the following level <br/> |
− | • Patient – 3 | + | • Patient – 3 <br/> |
− | • Practitioner - 1 | + | • Practitioner - 1 <br/> |
− | • Organization - 1 | + | • Organization - 1 <br/> |
− | • Group - 1 | + | • Group - 1 <br/> |
− | • RelatedPerson - 1 | + | • RelatedPerson - 1 <br/> |
− | • Encounter - 1 | + | • Encounter - 1 <br/> |
− | • Location - 1 | + | • Location - 1 <br/> |
− | • HealthCareService - 1 | + | • HealthCareService - 1 <br/> |
− | • Schedule - 1 | + | • Schedule - 1 <br/> |
− | • Appointment – 1 | + | • Appointment – 1 <br/> |
− | • Slot - 1 | + | • Slot - 1 <br/> |
− | • AppointmentResponse - 1 | + | • AppointmentResponse - 1 <br/> |
− | • EpisodeOfCare - 1 | + | • EpisodeOfCare - 1 <br/> |
− | Value Set (vocabulary) is also at level - 3 | + | Value Set (vocabulary) is also at level - 3 <br/> |
− | The only other resources of interest to PA are | + | The only other resources of interest to PA are <br/> |
− | • BillableItem | + | • BillableItem <br/> |
− | • Account | + | • Account <br/> |
− | The goal is that these will be at level 5 next year. FHIR 2.1 update to DSTU 2 – constrained up to subset of resources. The next major release of FHIR is 3.0 – WGs will be committing all of the changes. | + | The goal is that these will be at level 5 next year. FHIR 2.1 update to DSTU 2 – constrained up to subset of resources. The next major release of FHIR is 3.0 – WGs will be committing all of the changes. <br/> |
− | Alex brought up the subject of “mapping” of trigger events from v2 to FHIR. There has been work within Kaiser Permanente | + | Alex brought up the subject of “mapping” of trigger events from v2 to FHIR. There has been work within Kaiser Permanente <br/> <br/> |
− | Action Item: Address FMG in order to get feedback on the consideration of PA work for the next 12 month period to include providing not just element level mappings for the FHIR mappings to V2, v3, etc. but also the | + | '''Action Item''': Address FMG in order to get feedback on the consideration of PA work for the next 12 month period to include providing not just element level mappings for the FHIR mappings to V2, v3, etc. but also the event level. Owner: Brian. Due: .<br/> <br/> |
Motion to approve the 3 year work plan was made by Alex. Seconded by Irma. | Motion to approve the 3 year work plan was made by Alex. Seconded by Irma. | ||
Vote (for/against/abstain): 10/0/0<br/> | Vote (for/against/abstain): 10/0/0<br/> | ||
Update to agenda to review the SWOT <br/> | Update to agenda to review the SWOT <br/> | ||
− | The WG updated the SWOT with current items. Opportunities were changed to include: | + | The WG updated the SWOT with current items. Opportunities were changed to include: <br/> |
− | • HL7 FHIR PA adoption by new markets | + | • HL7 FHIR PA adoption by new markets <br/> |
− | • Implementer interest in advancing FHIR encounter management (e.g. Norway | + | • Implementer interest in advancing FHIR encounter management (e.g. Norway <br/> |
− | • IHE interest in development profiles based on PA FHIR content | + | • IHE interest in development profiles based on PA FHIR content <br/> |
− | • Strong interest in FHIR PA resources from implementers | + | • Strong interest in FHIR PA resources from implementers <br/> |
− | • Interest for v2 PA implementations to migrate to FHIR | + | • Interest for v2 PA implementations to migrate to FHIR <br/> |
− | Threats were changed | + | Threats were changed <br/> |
− | • Lack of interest in PA v3 content might lead to lack of interest in reaffirming the v3 standard | + | • Lack of interest in PA v3 content might lead to lack of interest in reaffirming the v3 standard <br/> |
− | • Conformance profiles diverge from our published standards without providing PAWG feedback (e.g. IHE, NHIN, etc.) | + | • Conformance profiles diverge from our published standards without providing PAWG feedback (e.g. IHE, NHIN, etc.) <br/> |
− | • Dependencies of limited critical | + | • Dependencies of limited critical <br/> |
− | • Missing participation from the HL7 community may lead to the termination of projects | + | • Missing participation from the HL7 community may lead to the termination of projects <br/> |
− | Brian moved to approve the SWOT. Christian seconded. | + | Brian moved to approve the SWOT. Christian seconded. <br/> |
Vote (for/against/abstain): 10/0/0<br/> | Vote (for/against/abstain): 10/0/0<br/> | ||
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− | * Action: | + | * Action: Address FMG in order to get feedback on the consideration of PA work for the next 12 month period to include providing not just element level mappings for the FHIR mappings to V2, v3, etc. but also the event level. Owner: Brian. Due: . |
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* Change the “individual” attribute to “actor” in the Availability resource. Responsible: Brian. Due: TBD | * Change the “individual” attribute to “actor” in the Availability resource. Responsible: Brian. Due: TBD | ||
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Latest revision as of 19:55, 11 January 2016
Contents
Patient Administration Work Group Minutes - October 5, 2015
Monday Q3
HL7 Patient Administration Meeting Minutes Location: Room # |
Date: 2015-10-05 Time: Monday Q3 | ||
Facilitator | Line Saele | Scribe | Alex de Leon |
Attendee | Name | Affiliation | |
X | Irma Jongeneel | HL7 Netherlands | |
X | Alex de Leon | Kaiser Permanente | |
X | Line Saele | National ICT Norway | |
X | Brian Postlethwaite | HealthConnex, Australia | |
X | Christian Hay | GS1 | |
X | Alexander Henket | Nictiz | |
Quorum Requirements Met (Chair + 2 members): Yes |
Agenda
Agenda Topics
Welcome/introductions
- Approve agenda
- Review PA mission & charter
- Review PA decision making practice
- Review PA 3-year work plan
- Review SWOT Analysis
Supporting Documents
Minutes
Minutes/Conclusions Reached:
Introductions
The WG reviewed the agenda. The only changes are changes of chair from Irma to Line So that Q4 can
Irma moved to approve the agenda with the above change. Alex seconded.
Vote (for/against/abstain): 10/0/0
The WG reviewed the PA mission & charter.
Irma moved to approve the mission and charter. Christian seconded.
Vote (for/against/abstain): 10/0/0
The WG reviewed the decision making practice. Although Alex d brought up the potential changes that would be made per conversations of Q4 the day before, wherein the WG would have to inform other WGs if FHIR changes put into GForge affect interested WGs.
Irma moved to approve the decision making practices. Brian seconded
Vote (for/against/abstain): 10/0/0
The WG continued to review the 3 year work plan. (Do we still retain this item? There was a question as to whether this would remain as a work group product).
.
The WG discussed the work to be done and what can be removed. In this discussion, the WG reviewed the current status of the FHIR resources. Brian noted that we have a resources at the following level
• Patient – 3
• Practitioner - 1
• Organization - 1
• Group - 1
• RelatedPerson - 1
• Encounter - 1
• Location - 1
• HealthCareService - 1
• Schedule - 1
• Appointment – 1
• Slot - 1
• AppointmentResponse - 1
• EpisodeOfCare - 1
Value Set (vocabulary) is also at level - 3
The only other resources of interest to PA are
• BillableItem
• Account
The goal is that these will be at level 5 next year. FHIR 2.1 update to DSTU 2 – constrained up to subset of resources. The next major release of FHIR is 3.0 – WGs will be committing all of the changes.
Alex brought up the subject of “mapping” of trigger events from v2 to FHIR. There has been work within Kaiser Permanente
Action Item: Address FMG in order to get feedback on the consideration of PA work for the next 12 month period to include providing not just element level mappings for the FHIR mappings to V2, v3, etc. but also the event level. Owner: Brian. Due: .
Motion to approve the 3 year work plan was made by Alex. Seconded by Irma.
Vote (for/against/abstain): 10/0/0
Update to agenda to review the SWOT
The WG updated the SWOT with current items. Opportunities were changed to include:
• HL7 FHIR PA adoption by new markets
• Implementer interest in advancing FHIR encounter management (e.g. Norway
• IHE interest in development profiles based on PA FHIR content
• Strong interest in FHIR PA resources from implementers
• Interest for v2 PA implementations to migrate to FHIR
Threats were changed
• Lack of interest in PA v3 content might lead to lack of interest in reaffirming the v3 standard
• Conformance profiles diverge from our published standards without providing PAWG feedback (e.g. IHE, NHIN, etc.)
• Dependencies of limited critical
• Missing participation from the HL7 community may lead to the termination of projects
Brian moved to approve the SWOT. Christian seconded.
Vote (for/against/abstain): 10/0/0
Meeting Outcomes
Actions (Include Owner, Action Item, and due date)
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Next Meeting/Preliminary Agenda Items
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Monday Q4
HL7 Patient Administration Meeting Minutes Location: Room # 1367 |
Date: 2014-05-05 Time: Monday Q4 | ||
Facilitator | Irma Jongeneel | Scribe | Alex de Leon |
Attendee | Name | Affiliation | |
X | Irma Jongeneel | HL7 Netherlands | |
X | Alex de Leon | Kaiser Permanente, USA | |
X | Brian Postlethwaite | HealthConnex, Australia | |
X | Daniel Lowenstein | EPIC | |
X | Alexander Henket | Nictiz | |
X | Iryna Roy | HL7 Canada | |
X | Christian Hay | GS1 | |
X | Younjian Bao | GE Healthcare | |
Quorum Requirements Met (Chair +2 members): Yes |
Agenda
Agenda Topics
- FHIR – Scheduling Resource
Supporting Documents
Minutes
Minutes/Conclusions Reached:
Nictiz
Project overview: Explanation benefits from Alexander Henket.
The WG continued to review Availability and Slot
Availability FHIR resource
The WG discussed the relationship between Availability and Slot, both being resources, clarifying that the Availability resource is made up of (Referenced by) the Slot resource. Most use cases would be searching on Slots rather than availability since query on slots would actually give what times can be scheduled.
The WG continued to discuss the attributes and what they mean. Most specificly it was clarified that Availability is more of a “planning horizon” while the slots give specific times that are available within that planning horizon.
The WG discussed the attribute “Individual” to “Actor” this was agreed upon by the WG.
Content tab – Availability is made up of slots and service types. Brian noted that there is currently verbiage from the V2 content. However he is questioning whether this should be removed.
Meeting Outcomes
Actions (Include Owner, Action Item, and due date)
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Next Meeting/Preliminary Agenda Items
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