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| width="0%" colspan="2" align="left" style="background:#f0f0f0;"|'''HL7 TSC FGB Meeting Minutes''' <br/>
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'''Location: Apogee 6
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'''Location: Administration Office
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| width="0%" colspan="1" align="left" style="background:#f0f0f0;"|'''Date: 2015-05-10 '''<br/> '''Time: 7:00 - 8:00 am'''
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| width="0%" colspan="1" align="left" style="background:#f0f0f0;"|'''Date: 2015-05-14 '''<br/> '''Time: 3:35pm-5:07pm'''
 
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| width="0%" colspan="2" align="right"|'''Facilitator''':  
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| width="0%" colspan="2" align="right"|'''Chair: Lloyd McKenzie ''':  
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| width="0%" colspan="1" align="right"|'''Note taker(s)''': Anne W.
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| width="0%" colspan="1" align="right"|'''Scribe''': Dave Shaver
 
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=Attendees=
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|colspan="4" align="center" style="background:#f0f0f0;"| Quorum = Chair plus 2
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* Hans Buitendijk Cerner Corporation
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|colspan="2" align="center" style="background:#f0f0f0;"| '''yes/no'''
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* Lorraine Constable HL7 Canada
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* Grahame Grieve Health Intersections Pty Ltd
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|colspan="2"|Co-Chair/CTO ||colspan="6"|Members
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* David Hay HL7 New Zealand
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* Paul Knapp Knapp Consulting Inc.
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| ||Woody Beeler|| ||Lorraine Constable|| ||Grahame Grieve|| ||David Hay||
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* Ewout Kramer HL7 Netherlands
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* Cecil Lynch Accenture
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| ||Dave Shaver ||  || Ewout Kramer|| ||Cecil Lynch (ArB) || || Lloyd McKenzie (FMG) ||
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* Joshua Mandel Boston Children's Hospital
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* Mary Kay McDaniel Cognosante, LLC
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| ||Ron Parker || . ||John Quinn||. ||Calvin Beebe||  ||
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* Lloyd McKenzie Gevity (HL7 Canada)
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* Tim McNeil Surescripts
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|colspan="2" rowspan="3"|observers/guests
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* John Moehrke GE Healthcare
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| ||Austin Kreisler
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* Brian Postlethwaite HEALTH CONNEX
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* Dave Shaver Corepoint Health
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|||Anne W., scribe
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* Kevin Shekleton
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|-
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* Marten Smits Furore
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=Agenda=
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* 'Round table' updates
 +
* General discussion points
 +
 
 +
=Minutes=
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==Convened==
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3:35pm by Lloyd
 +
 
 +
==General Updates==
 +
===Grahame===
 +
New FHIR-Educators mailing list created for those using FHIR to teach healthcare informatics
 +
 
 +
Collaboration Update
 +
* Continuum
 +
** Brief update re: devices
 +
* Telecom
 +
** Services with secure, reliable, delayed, QoS-driven message/data delivery
 +
** Opportunity to meet with them re-REST semantics
 +
* IHE
 +
** Certification of IHE FHIR profiles; tooling needed; Gazelle use desired
 +
** Gazelle likely too heavyweight to use at connectathons
 +
** IHE can help beef-up tooling
 +
** Atlanta test-run for terminology server certification; real certification likely to follow at next meeting
 +
 
 +
===John===
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* Single consent resource approved
 +
 
 +
===Ewout===
 +
* Connectathons: Future focus on testing use cases with multiple work flows and actors
 +
 
 +
===Lloyd===
 +
* ArcRIM
 +
** They would like to try a trail of a data model
 +
** They might map existing content onto FHIR; expect deeper feedback on existing resources; may require new resources.
 +
 
 +
===Paul===
 +
* US Realm Task Force has gone through charter process and is now a Board Committee
 +
** Goal is to have them own US-centric vocabularies
 +
 
 +
===David===
 +
* Clinical connection tooling well received
 +
 
 +
==General Discussions==
 +
===FHIR Maturity Model===
 +
* More concrete focus by content committees on connectathon
 +
* Result is likely more streams at connectathons
 +
** e.g., scheduling, appointments, work flow, providence, security, devices
 +
** Room size in Atlanta will likely drive choices
 +
** The ability to have stream coordinators/core team focus also drives scaling of stream count
 +
 
 +
===Out-of-cycle connectathons===
 +
Each mentioned in brief
 +
* Australia
 +
* Korea
 +
* Cleveland
 +
* Kenya
 +
 
 +
===Ballots===
 +
Feedback due by end of May. We can't publish until we've acted on all ballot comments. One possible action is to defer to future consideration.
 +
 
 +
Must reach 60% affirmative.
 +
 
 +
Early feedback:
 +
* Hans
 +
** OO: Observation at the top of list for comments.
 +
** By end-of-July, challenging time frames
 +
** One hour per week dedicated to FHIR discussions; throttled by time to make decisions
 +
* Lloyd
 +
** Likely OK: Rx, PA, Sec, CCDO, II, Clinical Genomics, IHE (in SD)
 +
* Paul
 +
** FM: Unclear without block votes to defer
 +
 
 +
===Ballot Reconciliation===
 +
* Grahame: gForge work flow starting with 'who made the comment' does not work well; must revert to spreadsheet
 +
* Hans: Some items require multiple motions; difficult to record in gForge
 +
* Paul/Grahame: Combined issues between network drop off and gForge slow less was an issue
 +
* Lloyd: Exposing submitting likely a strong help?
 +
* Loraine: Risk points. Centralized authentication.
 +
* Lloyd: Will gather input to drive gForge replacement project; continued discussions over next two weeks
  
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==Agenda==
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===Planning for Atlanta===
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*Roll call -  
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* Lloyd will manage work group registrations
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* General governance precepts
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* FGB: Q0 on Monday as Plenary will be on-going
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* Ballot-related governance issues?
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* Goals:
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** We will have completed publication of DSTU 2.0 (due by end-of-July or at least "summer 2015")
 +
** Content creation on-going for DSTU 2.1 (maybe to be named 3.0)
 +
** Do we need a 1/2 day virtual meeting in August? Alternative is active email discussion.
 +
** Monday Q3/Q4: Very big room for work flow request/response management. (OO, MM, Rx, SOA, InM, FM, FHIR, PA, Patient Care, etc). Hans to request room.
  
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==Minutes==
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August 10-11; joint CIMI and FHIR meeting
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Convened at
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* Day 1: Methodology / infrastructure meeting
 +
** How does content migrate automatically from CIMI into FHIR
 +
* Day 2: More open; clinical modeling engagement
 +
** How do we prepare for FHIR's trough of disillusionment?
  
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*
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==Adjourned==
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5:07pm by Lloyd
  
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===Next Steps===
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=Next Steps=
 
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* Hans to request 'big room' for Atlanta multi-WG meeting
  
 
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|colspan="4" |'''Next Meeting/Preliminary Agenda Items'''<br/>
 
|colspan="4" |'''Next Meeting/Preliminary Agenda Items'''<br/>
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*[[2015mmdd FGB concall]]
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*Next joint FMG/FGB face-to-face meeting in Atlanta
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Latest revision as of 15:26, 14 May 2015

HL7 TSC Joint FGB and FMG Meeting Minutes

Location: Administration Office

Date: 2015-05-14
Time: 3:35pm-5:07pm
Chair: Lloyd McKenzie : Scribe: Dave Shaver

Attendees

  • Hans Buitendijk Cerner Corporation
  • Lorraine Constable HL7 Canada
  • Grahame Grieve Health Intersections Pty Ltd
  • David Hay HL7 New Zealand
  • Paul Knapp Knapp Consulting Inc.
  • Ewout Kramer HL7 Netherlands
  • Cecil Lynch Accenture
  • Joshua Mandel Boston Children's Hospital
  • Mary Kay McDaniel Cognosante, LLC
  • Lloyd McKenzie Gevity (HL7 Canada)
  • Tim McNeil Surescripts
  • John Moehrke GE Healthcare
  • Brian Postlethwaite HEALTH CONNEX
  • Dave Shaver Corepoint Health
  • Kevin Shekleton
  • Marten Smits Furore

Agenda

  • 'Round table' updates
  • General discussion points

Minutes

Convened

3:35pm by Lloyd

General Updates

Grahame

New FHIR-Educators mailing list created for those using FHIR to teach healthcare informatics

Collaboration Update

  • Continuum
    • Brief update re: devices
  • Telecom
    • Services with secure, reliable, delayed, QoS-driven message/data delivery
    • Opportunity to meet with them re-REST semantics
  • IHE
    • Certification of IHE FHIR profiles; tooling needed; Gazelle use desired
    • Gazelle likely too heavyweight to use at connectathons
    • IHE can help beef-up tooling
    • Atlanta test-run for terminology server certification; real certification likely to follow at next meeting

John

  • Single consent resource approved

Ewout

  • Connectathons: Future focus on testing use cases with multiple work flows and actors

Lloyd

  • ArcRIM
    • They would like to try a trail of a data model
    • They might map existing content onto FHIR; expect deeper feedback on existing resources; may require new resources.

Paul

  • US Realm Task Force has gone through charter process and is now a Board Committee
    • Goal is to have them own US-centric vocabularies

David

  • Clinical connection tooling well received

General Discussions

FHIR Maturity Model

  • More concrete focus by content committees on connectathon
  • Result is likely more streams at connectathons
    • e.g., scheduling, appointments, work flow, providence, security, devices
    • Room size in Atlanta will likely drive choices
    • The ability to have stream coordinators/core team focus also drives scaling of stream count

Out-of-cycle connectathons

Each mentioned in brief

  • Australia
  • Korea
  • Cleveland
  • Kenya

Ballots

Feedback due by end of May. We can't publish until we've acted on all ballot comments. One possible action is to defer to future consideration.

Must reach 60% affirmative.

Early feedback:

  • Hans
    • OO: Observation at the top of list for comments.
    • By end-of-July, challenging time frames
    • One hour per week dedicated to FHIR discussions; throttled by time to make decisions
  • Lloyd
    • Likely OK: Rx, PA, Sec, CCDO, II, Clinical Genomics, IHE (in SD)
  • Paul
    • FM: Unclear without block votes to defer

Ballot Reconciliation

  • Grahame: gForge work flow starting with 'who made the comment' does not work well; must revert to spreadsheet
  • Hans: Some items require multiple motions; difficult to record in gForge
  • Paul/Grahame: Combined issues between network drop off and gForge slow less was an issue
  • Lloyd: Exposing submitting likely a strong help?
  • Loraine: Risk points. Centralized authentication.
  • Lloyd: Will gather input to drive gForge replacement project; continued discussions over next two weeks

Planning for Atlanta

  • Lloyd will manage work group registrations
  • FGB: Q0 on Monday as Plenary will be on-going
  • Goals:
    • We will have completed publication of DSTU 2.0 (due by end-of-July or at least "summer 2015")
    • Content creation on-going for DSTU 2.1 (maybe to be named 3.0)
    • Do we need a 1/2 day virtual meeting in August? Alternative is active email discussion.
    • Monday Q3/Q4: Very big room for work flow request/response management. (OO, MM, Rx, SOA, InM, FM, FHIR, PA, Patient Care, etc). Hans to request room.

August 10-11; joint CIMI and FHIR meeting

  • Day 1: Methodology / infrastructure meeting
    • How does content migrate automatically from CIMI into FHIR
  • Day 2: More open; clinical modeling engagement
    • How do we prepare for FHIR's trough of disillusionment?

Adjourned

5:07pm by Lloyd

Next Steps

Actions (Include Owner, Action Item, and due date)
  • Hans to request 'big room' for Atlanta multi-WG meeting
Next Meeting/Preliminary Agenda Items
  • Next joint FMG/FGB face-to-face meeting in Atlanta


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