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=ARB - Meeting (Date in Title)=  
 
=ARB - Meeting (Date in Title)=  
{{:ARB Logistics}}
 
 
==Agenda==
 
==Agenda==
 
#Call to order
 
#Call to order
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###[http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/hlbam2b/scmsvn/?action=browse&path=%2Ftrunk%2Fdocuments%2Fbam_section_2_goals.docx&view=log Section 2 Goals](AMS)
 
###[http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/hlbam2b/scmsvn/?action=browse&path=%2Ftrunk%2Fdocuments%2Fbam_section_2_goals.docx&view=log Section 2 Goals](AMS)
 
###[http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/hlbam2b/scmsvn/?action=browse&path=%2Ftrunk%2Fdocuments%2FBAM_Section_3_vision.docx&view=log Section 3 Vision](Leadership) Approved!
 
###[http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/hlbam2b/scmsvn/?action=browse&path=%2Ftrunk%2Fdocuments%2FBAM_Section_3_vision.docx&view=log Section 3 Vision](Leadership) Approved!
###[http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/hlbam2b/scmsvn/?action=browse&path=%2Ftrunk%2Fdocuments%2Fbam_section_4_Business_architecture.docx&view=log section 4 Business Architecture Model] Bo Complete  
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###[http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/hlbam2b/scmsvn/?action=browse&path=%2Ftrunk%2Fdocuments%2Fbam_section_4_Business_architecture.docx&view=log section 4 Business Architecture Model] Bo Complete & approved
 
###[http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/hlbam2b/scmsvn/?action=browse&path=%2Ftrunk%2Fdocuments%2Fbam_section_5_Scope.docx&view=log Section 5 Scope] Andy - Done and approved!
 
###[http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/hlbam2b/scmsvn/?action=browse&path=%2Ftrunk%2Fdocuments%2Fbam_section_5_Scope.docx&view=log Section 5 Scope] Andy - Done and approved!
 
###[http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/hlbam2b/scmsvn/?action=browse&path=%2Ftrunk%2Fdocuments%2Fbam_section_6_organizational_Precepts.docx&view=log Section 6 Organizational Precepts] Ron
 
###[http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/hlbam2b/scmsvn/?action=browse&path=%2Ftrunk%2Fdocuments%2Fbam_section_6_organizational_Precepts.docx&view=log Section 6 Organizational Precepts] Ron
####Ron is behind will try to deliver next sunday.
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####Ron is behind will try to deliver by 11/21/2013.
 
###[http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/hlbam2b/scmsvn/?action=browse&path=%2Ftrunk%2Fdocuments%2Fbam_section_7_business_architecture.docx&view=log Section 7 Business Architecture] Bo, Ron, Jane
 
###[http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/hlbam2b/scmsvn/?action=browse&path=%2Ftrunk%2Fdocuments%2Fbam_section_7_business_architecture.docx&view=log Section 7 Business Architecture] Bo, Ron, Jane
 
#Management - Defered to November 26
 
#Management - Defered to November 26
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|-
 
|-
 
| width="10%" colspan="1" align="right"|'''Facilitator'''
 
| width="10%" colspan="1" align="right"|'''Facilitator'''
| width="35%" colspan="1" align="left"|[[User:Ajulian | Julian, Tony]]/[[User:Lconstab |Constable, Lorraine]]   
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| width="35%" colspan="1" align="left"|[[User:Ajulian | Julian, Tony]]
 
| width="25%" colspan="1" align="right"|'''Note taker(s)'''
 
| width="25%" colspan="1" align="right"|'''Note taker(s)'''
| width="30%" colspan="1" align="left"|[[User:Ajulian | Julian, Tony]]//[[User:Lconstab |Constable, Lorraine]]   
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| width="30%" colspan="1" align="left"|[[User:Ajulian | Julian, Tony]]
 
|-
 
|-
 
| border="4" cellpadding="1" colspan="4" style="background:#f0f0f0;"|
 
| border="4" cellpadding="1" colspan="4" style="background:#f0f0f0;"|
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|colspan="2"|'''Affiliation'''  
 
|colspan="2"|'''Affiliation'''  
 
|-
 
|-
|.||Bond,Andy           
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|X||Bond,Andy           
 
|colspan="2"|NEHTA
 
|colspan="2"|NEHTA
 
|-  
 
|-  
|.||[[User:Lconstab |Constable, Lorraine]]     
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|X||[[User:Lconstab |Constable, Lorraine]]     
 
|colspan="2"|Constable Consulting Inc.
 
|colspan="2"|Constable Consulting Inc.
 
|-  
 
|-  
|.||[[User:Janecurry|Curry, Jane]]         
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|R||[[User:Janecurry|Curry, Jane]]         
 
|colspan="2"|Health Information Strategies
 
|colspan="2"|Health Information Strategies
 
|-  
 
|-  
|.||Dagnall, Bo         
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|R||Dagnall, Bo         
 
|colspan="2"|HP Enterprise Services
 
|colspan="2"|HP Enterprise Services
 
|-
 
|-
|.||[[User:Hufnagel | Hufnagel, Steve]]   
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|X||[[User:Hufnagel | Hufnagel, Steve]]   
 
|colspan="2"| U.S. Department of Defense, Military Health System  
 
|colspan="2"| U.S. Department of Defense, Military Health System  
 
|-
 
|-
|.||[[User:Ajulian | Julian, Tony]]       
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|X||[[User:Ajulian | Julian, Tony]]       
 
|colspan="2"|Mayo Clinic
 
|colspan="2"|Mayo Clinic
 
|-  
 
|-  
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|colspan="2"|Accenture
 
|colspan="2"|Accenture
 
|-  
 
|-  
|.||Milosevic, Zoran
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|X||Milosevic, Zoran
 
|colspan="2"|Deontik Pty Ltd
 
|colspan="2"|Deontik Pty Ltd
 
|-
 
|-
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|colspan="2"|Health Level Seven, Inc.
 
|colspan="2"|Health Level Seven, Inc.
 
|-  
 
|-  
|.||Stechishin,Andy       
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|X||Stechishin,Andy       
 
|colspan="2"|CANA Software and Service Ltd.
 
|colspan="2"|CANA Software and Service Ltd.
 
|-
 
|-
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|colspan="2"|
 
|colspan="2"|
 
|-  
 
|-  
|.|| Kreisler, Austin
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|R|| Kreisler, Austin
 
|colspan="2"| HL7 TSC Chair
 
|colspan="2"| HL7 TSC Chair
 
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|-
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|colspan="2"| NCI
 
|colspan="2"| NCI
 
|-
 
|-
|.|| Pech, Brian
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|X|| Pech, Brian
 
|colspan="2"| Kaiser Permanente
 
|colspan="2"| Kaiser Permanente
 
|-
 
|-
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==Minutes==
 
==Minutes==
 
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#Approval of Agenda and [[20131112_arb_minutes | Minutes]]
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##'''MOTION''' approve agenda and minutes (Lorraine/Andy S)
 +
##'''Vote''' (4-0-0)
 +
#Review of FHIR ballot Items:(30 minutes max)
 +
##Items not reconciled by ArB
 +
###11 - Language change was discussed with Bo.
 +
####'''Motion''' to accept (Andy S/ Lorraine)
 +
####'''Vote'''(3-0-1)
 +
###18 Small r resource was used in conjunction with Capital R resource.  Wording will be changed to avoid keywords.
 +
####'''Motion''' to accept (Andy S/ Andy B)
 +
####'''Vote'''(4-0-0)
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###52 Supply and clinical order need to be discriminated
 +
####Bo and Grahame are to write up text.  Needs to be expanded to add the dynamic model from OO. 
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####Steve Hufnagel arrived
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####Steve Left.
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####'''Motion''' to accept as not persuasive:  Separation of order and order detail achieves the distinction between supply orders and clinical orders.  Suggest that this approach be considered for other resource definitions.(Eg the Medication space) for consistency. (Lorraine/Andy S )
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####'''Vote'''(4-0-0)
 +
##Items to be reopened:
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###40 Version was added to coding, so ArB is fine with it.
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###'''Motion''' to reopen 21 and 25 for reconsideration(Lorraine/Andy S)
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####'''Vote''' (4-0-0)
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###21 '''Motion''' to change to not-persuasive with mod add a comment that resources can be further constrained for a specific use case by profiles.(Lorraine/Andy S)
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####'''Vote''' (4-0-0)
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###25 Discussion of isModifier.Arb would like to re-visit to ensure that the scope is clearly defined and understood and the interaction of is-modifier and must support is clear.
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####Andy: ITS has been active in concern of the is-modifier.  We believe that the agreement is that they will split it out and have better wording.
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####'''Motion''' to change to persuasive with mod:Edit the description to ensure that the scope is clearly defined and understood, and in particular, that the interaction of is-modifer and must-support is clear.(Andy S/Andy B)
 +
####'''Vote''' (4-0-0)
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#Methodology (30 minutes)
 +
##BAM sections Review:
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###[http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/hlbam2b/scmsvn/?action=browse&path=%2Ftrunk%2Fdocuments%2FBAM_Section_1_Purpose.docx&view=log Section 1] Approved!
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###[http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/hlbam2b/scmsvn/?action=browse&path=%2Ftrunk%2Fdocuments%2Fbam_section_2_goals.docx&view=log Section 2 Goals](AMS)
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####'''Motion''' To approve this section as done(Andy S/Lorraine)
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####'''Vote''' (4-0-0)
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###[http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/hlbam2b/scmsvn/?action=browse&path=%2Ftrunk%2Fdocuments%2FBAM_Section_3_vision.docx&view=log Section 3 Vision](Leadership) Approved!
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###[http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/hlbam2b/scmsvn/?action=browse&path=%2Ftrunk%2Fdocuments%2Fbam_section_4_Business_architecture.docx&view=log section 4 Business Architecture Model] Bo Complete
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###[http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/hlbam2b/scmsvn/?action=browse&path=%2Ftrunk%2Fdocuments%2Fbam_section_5_Scope.docx&view=log Section 5 Scope] Andy - Done and approved!
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###[http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/hlbam2b/scmsvn/?action=browse&path=%2Ftrunk%2Fdocuments%2Fbam_section_6_organizational_Precepts.docx&view=log Section 6 Organizational Precepts] Ron
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####Ron is behind will try to deliver 11/21/2013.
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###[http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/hlbam2b/scmsvn/?action=browse&path=%2Ftrunk%2Fdocuments%2Fbam_section_7_business_architecture.docx&view=log Section 7 Business Architecture] Bo, Ron, Jane
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##Management
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###Potential liaison with OGC and HL7.
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####Interested in establishing relationship between the Open geospatial community and Health Information.
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####Suggestion was to contact the Organizational Relations Committee and John Quinn.
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#Management - Deferred to November 26
 +
#Governance
 +
#Other business and planning
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##Review missing glossary terms.
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#Adjournment
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##'''Motion''' to adjourn (Andy S/Zoran)
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##'''Vote'''(4-0-0)
  
  
 
[[Category:Arb Minutes]]
 
[[Category:Arb Minutes]]

Latest revision as of 12:58, 20 November 2013

ARB - Meeting (Date in Title)

Agenda

  1. Call to order
  2. Roll Call
  3. Approval of Agenda and Minutes
  4. Review of FHIR ballot Items:(30 minutes max)
    1. Items not reconcilled by ArB
      1. 11
      2. 18
      3. 52
    2. Items to be reopened:
      1. 40
      2. 21
      3. 25
  5. Methodology (30 minutes)
    1. BAM sections Review:
      1. Section 1 Approved!
      2. Section 2 Goals(AMS)
      3. Section 3 Vision(Leadership) Approved!
      4. section 4 Business Architecture Model Bo Complete & approved
      5. Section 5 Scope Andy - Done and approved!
      6. Section 6 Organizational Precepts Ron
        1. Ron is behind will try to deliver by 11/21/2013.
      7. Section 7 Business Architecture Bo, Ron, Jane
  6. Management - Defered to November 26
  7. Governance
  8. Other business and planning
  9. Adjournment

Meeting Information

HL7 ArB Work Group Meeting Minutes

Location: Telcon

Date: 20131119
Time: 5:00pm U.S. Eastern
Facilitator Julian, Tony Note taker(s) Julian, Tony
Attendee Name Affiliation
X Bond,Andy NEHTA
X Constable, Lorraine Constable Consulting Inc.
R Curry, Jane Health Information Strategies
R Dagnall, Bo HP Enterprise Services
X Hufnagel, Steve U.S. Department of Defense, Military Health System
X Julian, Tony Mayo Clinic
. Loyd, Patrick ICode Solutions
. Lynch, Cecil Accenture
X Milosevic, Zoran Deontik Pty Ltd
. Parker, Ron CA Infoway
. Quinn, John Health Level Seven, Inc.
X Stechishin,Andy CANA Software and Service Ltd.
. Guests
R Kreisler, Austin HL7 TSC Chair
. Luthra, Anil NCI
X Pech, Brian Kaiser Permanente
. Shakir, Abdul Malik City of Hope National Medical Center
. Laakso, Lynn HL7
.
. Legend
X Present
. Absent
R Regrets
Quorum Requirements (Co-chair + 3) Met: Yes

Minutes

  1. Approval of Agenda and Minutes
    1. MOTION approve agenda and minutes (Lorraine/Andy S)
    2. Vote (4-0-0)
  2. Review of FHIR ballot Items:(30 minutes max)
    1. Items not reconciled by ArB
      1. 11 - Language change was discussed with Bo.
        1. Motion to accept (Andy S/ Lorraine)
        2. Vote(3-0-1)
      2. 18 Small r resource was used in conjunction with Capital R resource. Wording will be changed to avoid keywords.
        1. Motion to accept (Andy S/ Andy B)
        2. Vote(4-0-0)
      3. 52 Supply and clinical order need to be discriminated
        1. Bo and Grahame are to write up text. Needs to be expanded to add the dynamic model from OO.
        2. Steve Hufnagel arrived
        3. Steve Left.
        4. Motion to accept as not persuasive: Separation of order and order detail achieves the distinction between supply orders and clinical orders. Suggest that this approach be considered for other resource definitions.(Eg the Medication space) for consistency. (Lorraine/Andy S )
        5. Vote(4-0-0)
    2. Items to be reopened:
      1. 40 Version was added to coding, so ArB is fine with it.
      2. Motion to reopen 21 and 25 for reconsideration(Lorraine/Andy S)
        1. Vote (4-0-0)
      3. 21 Motion to change to not-persuasive with mod add a comment that resources can be further constrained for a specific use case by profiles.(Lorraine/Andy S)
        1. Vote (4-0-0)
      4. 25 Discussion of isModifier.Arb would like to re-visit to ensure that the scope is clearly defined and understood and the interaction of is-modifier and must support is clear.
        1. Andy: ITS has been active in concern of the is-modifier. We believe that the agreement is that they will split it out and have better wording.
        2. Motion to change to persuasive with mod:Edit the description to ensure that the scope is clearly defined and understood, and in particular, that the interaction of is-modifer and must-support is clear.(Andy S/Andy B)
        3. Vote (4-0-0)
  3. Methodology (30 minutes)
    1. BAM sections Review:
      1. Section 1 Approved!
      2. Section 2 Goals(AMS)
        1. Motion To approve this section as done(Andy S/Lorraine)
        2. Vote (4-0-0)
      3. Section 3 Vision(Leadership) Approved!
      4. section 4 Business Architecture Model Bo Complete
      5. Section 5 Scope Andy - Done and approved!
      6. Section 6 Organizational Precepts Ron
        1. Ron is behind will try to deliver 11/21/2013.
      7. Section 7 Business Architecture Bo, Ron, Jane
    2. Management
      1. Potential liaison with OGC and HL7.
        1. Interested in establishing relationship between the Open geospatial community and Health Information.
        2. Suggestion was to contact the Organizational Relations Committee and John Quinn.
  4. Management - Deferred to November 26
  5. Governance
  6. Other business and planning
    1. Review missing glossary terms.
  7. Adjournment
    1. Motion to adjourn (Andy S/Zoran)
    2. Vote(4-0-0)