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==Sunday September 9, 2012==
 
==Sunday September 9, 2012==
 
===Q1 ===
 
===Q1 ===
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=Q1=
 
==Meeting Information==
 
==Meeting Information==
 
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| width="50%" colspan="2" align="left" style="background:#f0f0f0;"|'''HL7 ArB Work Group  Meeting Minutes''' <br/>
 
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'''Location:  [[20100722_arb_minutes#logistics| Telcon]]'''
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'''Location:  Baltimore, MD USA'''
 
| width="50%" colspan="3" align="left" style="background:#f0f0f0;"|'''Date: 20120909'''<br/> '''Time: 9:00am U.S. Eastern'''
 
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|X||Bond,Andy           
 
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==Minutes==
 +
#Call to order at 9:00am
 +
#Agenda approved
 +
#Charlie: What would FHIR like us to stay away from, and what to engage?
 +
#Grahame: Formal task to define FHIR methodology, and implementation guide.  Held a Draft-for-comment ballot, and connect-athon.  We may get Arb involved in the architecture.  Where does FHRI fit in the architecture?
 +
#Ron: The BAM will rely on the people in the room to rely on experiences of people in the room. WIll use FHIR as the startup project, but did not want to burden the FHIR team.  FHIR can help us define the behavior of the business, how you would see what your are doing rolling out in that model.
 +
#Charlie: Directive from the TSC that the 2bBAM must include separation of product lines, with product line management.  There may be core and derived product lines. There will be a clean separation between Management, governance, and methodology(MGM).
 +
#Grahame: There is a gap between product lines from a BAM aspect.  V2 and FHIR are platform products.
 +
#Charlie: What does it mean to define a product line?  Differences in MGM will indicate separate product lines.  TSC believes that data-types may discrimnate product lines.
 +
#Grahame: 21090 is not a product line.
 +
#Charlie:TSC wants to focus on the 21090 problem.
 +
#Ron: everone is struggling with deliniation of talking about/managing product lines.  Each line does not have a single homogenous methodology.  Part of challenge is to have people who are familiar with what they do now understand where they are places, and discover white-space.  Bo will be the methodologist for the excercise - provide the rigor.  We will start coarse-grained, and drill down.  Most of August 30 call was centered on methodology for today.
 +
#TSC report:
 +
#Charlie: We have a basic framework based on TOGAF, ARCHIMATE, and OMG with SAIF-CD applied where feasable.  We should include product line management and MGM.  There was discussion of whether tonights presentation to the TSC should be wide, or deep.  TSC wants it to be little bit wide, and little bit deep.  In Vancouver there was a tutorial on governance with HL7 mappings.  Two hours were terminology, 2 hours were methodology for services, 2 hours mapping the 11 step process into HL7 specifics, mapping the 32 governance precepts into HL7.  TSC will do the risk profile. Charlie presented the mapping of the Thomas Erl to HL7.  TSC made a few changes.
 +
#Ron: We took the process of foundational elements and mapped it out into product development stages. 
 +
##Product-Line Adoption Planning ?
 +
##Product Line Inventory  ?
 +
##CONCEPTUAL LEVEL Requirements  ?
 +
##Logical level artifact definition ?
 +
##Logical level bindings ?
 +
##Implementation Guide development ?
 +
##Balloting Publication and Balloting ?
 +
##DSTU Testing ?
 +
##External publication of Specifications?
 +
##Education and Marketing ?
 +
##Artifact Versioning and Retirement (primarily controlled by ANSI et al).
 +
#
 +
#Bo: Framework for the BAM is the why/who/what/how the when is a container. Are there breakpoints in the timeline for the steps?
 +
#Charlie: This reflects what is done, and reflects a generic product line process.
 +
#Bo: Apply this to why/who/what/how.
 +
#Charlie: Apply to product model process.
 +
#Bo: Model the steps sequentially, will give us the breadth.
 +
#Charlie: These steps are not necessarily one time through.
 +
#Bo: Focus on enumeration of things.
 +
#Charlie: We have addressed one of two principles - product line development. The HL7 process steps are placed in a table where rows are 11 precepts, columns activities, risks, precepts, process pattern, metrics.
 +
#The group spent the remainder of the time beginning to fill out the table.
 +
=Q2=
 +
==Meeting Information==
 +
{|border="1" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="0"
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| width="50%" colspan="2" align="left" style="background:#f0f0f0;"|'''HL7 ArB Work Group  Meeting Minutes''' <br/>
 +
'''Location:  Baltimore, MD USA'''
 +
| width="50%" colspan="3" align="left" style="background:#f0f0f0;"|'''Date: 20120909'''<br/> '''Time: 11:00am U.S. Eastern'''
 +
|-
 +
| width="10%" colspan="1" align="right"|'''Facilitator'''
 +
| width="35%" colspan="1" align="left"|Charlie Mead
 +
| width="25%" colspan="1" align="right"|'''Note taker(s)'''
 +
| width="30%" colspan="1" align="left"|[[User:Ajulian | Julian, Tony]]
 +
|-
 +
| border="4" cellpadding="1" colspan="4" style="background:#f0f0f0;"|
 +
|-
 +
| border="1" cellpadding="2" colspan="1" align="left"|'''Attendee'''
 +
| '''Name'''
 +
|colspan="2"|'''Affiliation'''
 +
|-
 +
|X||Bond,Andy         
 +
|colspan="2"|NEHTA
 +
|-
 +
|X||[[User:Lconstab |Constable, Lorraine]]   
 +
|colspan="2"|Constable Consulting Inc.
 +
|-
 +
|X||[[User:Janecurry|Curry, Jane]]       
 +
|colspan="2"|Health Information Strategies
 +
|-
 +
|X||Dagnall, Bo       
 +
|colspan="2"|HP Enterprise Services
 +
|-
 +
|X||[[User:GrahameGrieve |Grieve, Grahame]]
 +
|colspan="2"|Health Intersections Pty Ltd
 +
|-
 +
|X||[[User:Hufnagel | Hufnagel, Steve]] 
 +
|colspan="2"| U.S. Department of Defense, Military Health System
 +
|-
 +
|X||[[User:Ajulian | Julian, Tony]]     
 +
|colspan="2"|Mayo Clinic
 +
|-
 +
|X||[[User:Ployd | Loyd, Patrick]]     
 +
|colspan="2"|ICode Solutions
 +
|-
 +
|X||[[User:Clynchmd | Lynch, Cecil]]     
 +
|colspan="2"|Accenture
 +
|-
 +
|X||Mead, Charlie     
 +
|colspan="2"|National Cancer Institute
 +
|-
 +
|.||Milosevic, Zoran
 +
|colspan="2"|NEHTA
 +
|-
 +
|X||[[User:Rongparker | Parker, Ron]]       
 +
|colspan="2"|CA Infoway
 +
|-
 +
|.||Quinn, John       
 +
|colspan="2"|Health Level Seven, Inc.
 +
|-
 +
|.
 +
|colspan="4" align="center"|Guests             
 +
|colspan="2"|
 +
|-
 +
|.||McKenzie, Lloyd
 +
|colspan="2"| HL7 Canada
 +
|.
 +
|.|| Kreisler, Austin
 +
|colspan="2"| HL7 TSC Chair
 +
|.
 +
|-
 +
|.
 +
|colspan="4" align="center"|Legend           
 +
|colspan="2"|
 +
|-
 +
|X||Present
 +
|colspan="2"|
 +
|-
 +
|.||Absent
 +
|colspan="2"|
 +
|-
 +
|R||Regrets
 +
|colspan="2"|
 +
|-
 +
|colspan="4" style="background:#f0f0f0;"|
 +
|-
 +
|colspan="4" |'''Quorum Requirements Met: '''Yes
 +
|-
 +
|}
 +
==Minutes==
 +
#Continuation of the excercise started in Q1.
 +
#Adjourned at 12:30 Pm U.S. Eastern
 +
=Q3=
 +
 +
==Meeting Information==
 +
{|border="1" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="0"
 +
| width="50%" colspan="2" align="left" style="background:#f0f0f0;"|'''HL7 ArB Work Group  Meeting Minutes''' <br/>
 +
'''Location:  Baltimore, MD USA'''
 +
| width="50%" colspan="3" align="left" style="background:#f0f0f0;"|'''Date: 20120909'''<br/> '''Time: 1:45pm U.S. Eastern'''
 +
|-
 +
| width="10%" colspan="1" align="right"|'''Facilitator'''
 +
| width="35%" colspan="1" align="left"|Charlie Mead
 +
| width="25%" colspan="1" align="right"|'''Note taker(s)'''
 +
| width="30%" colspan="1" align="left"|[[User:Ajulian | Julian, Tony]]
 +
|-
 +
| border="4" cellpadding="1" colspan="4" style="background:#f0f0f0;"|
 +
|-
 +
| border="1" cellpadding="2" colspan="1" align="left"|'''Attendee'''
 +
| '''Name'''
 +
|colspan="2"|'''Affiliation'''
 +
|-
 +
|X||Bond,Andy         
 +
|colspan="2"|NEHTA
 +
|-
 +
|X||[[User:Lconstab |Constable, Lorraine]]   
 +
|colspan="2"|Constable Consulting Inc.
 +
|-
 +
|X||[[User:Janecurry|Curry, Jane]]       
 +
|colspan="2"|Health Information Strategies
 +
|-
 +
|X||Dagnall, Bo       
 +
|colspan="2"|HP Enterprise Services
 +
|-
 +
|.||[[User:GrahameGrieve |Grieve, Grahame]]
 +
|colspan="2"|Health Intersections Pty Ltd
 +
|-
 +
|X||[[User:Hufnagel | Hufnagel, Steve]] 
 +
|colspan="2"| U.S. Department of Defense, Military Health System
 +
|-
 +
|X||[[User:Ajulian | Julian, Tony]]     
 +
|colspan="2"|Mayo Clinic
 +
|-
 +
|X||[[User:Ployd | Loyd, Patrick]]     
 +
|colspan="2"|ICode Solutions
 +
|-
 +
|X||[[User:Clynchmd | Lynch, Cecil]]     
 +
|colspan="2"|Accenture
 +
|-
 +
|X||Mead, Charlie     
 +
|colspan="2"|National Cancer Institute
 +
|-
 +
|.||Milosevic, Zoran
 +
|colspan="2"|NEHTA
 +
|-
 +
|X||[[User:Rongparker | Parker, Ron]]       
 +
|colspan="2"|CA Infoway
 +
|-
 +
|.||Quinn, John       
 +
|colspan="2"|Health Level Seven, Inc.
 +
|-
 +
|.
 +
|colspan="4" align="center"|Guests             
 +
|colspan="2"|
 +
|-
 +
|X|| Kreisler, Austin
 +
|colspan="2"| HL7 TSC Chair
 +
|-
 +
|.
 +
|colspan="4" align="center"|Legend           
 +
|colspan="2"|
 +
|-
 +
|X||Present
 +
|colspan="2"|
 +
|-
 +
|.||Absent
 +
|colspan="2"|
 +
|-
 +
|R||Regrets
 +
|colspan="2"|
 +
|-
 +
|colspan="4" style="background:#f0f0f0;"|
 +
|-
 +
|colspan="4" |'''Quorum Requirements Met: '''Yes
 +
|-
 +
|}
 +
 +
==Minutes==
 +
#Continuation of high-level Business Architecture Model
 +
#Adjourned at 3:00pm Eastern
 +
[[User:Ajulian|Tony Julian]] 15:49, 27 September 2012 (UTC)
  
−
===Q2 ===
 
−
===Q3 ===
 
 
==Thursday September 13, 2012==
 
==Thursday September 13, 2012==
 
===Thursday Q3===
 
===Thursday Q3===
 
===Thursday Q4===
 
===Thursday Q4===
 
[[Category:Arb Minutes]]
 
[[Category:Arb Minutes]]

Revision as of 15:49, 27 September 2012

ARB - Meeting September 9-15 2012

Logistics

Hyatt Regency Baltimore on the Inner Harbor, Baltimore MD, USA

Agenda

Sunday September 9, 2012

Q1

  1. Call to order
  2. Roll Call
  3. Approval of Quarters agenda
  4. Approval of WGM agenda
  5. Approval of minutes
  6. Report from Architecure Project
  7. Business Architecture Model
  8. Other business and Planning
  9. Adjournment

Q2

  1. Call to order
  2. Roll Call
  3. Approval of Quarters agenda
  4. Business Architecture Model
  5. Adjournment

Q3

  1. Call to order
  2. Roll Call
  3. Approval of Quarters agenda
  4. Business Architecture Model
  5. Other business and Planning
  6. Adjournment

Thursday September 13, 2012

Q3

  1. Call to order
  2. Roll Call
  3. Approval of Quarters agenda
  4. Item 1
  5. Item 2
  6. Other business and Planning
  7. Adjournment

Q4

  1. Call to order
  2. Roll Call
  3. Approval of Quarters agenda
  4. Item 1
  5. Item 2
  6. Other business and Planning
  7. Adjournment


Minutes

Sunday September 9, 2012

Q1

Q1

Meeting Information

HL7 ArB Work Group Meeting Minutes

Location: Baltimore, MD USA

Date: 20120909
Time: 9:00am U.S. Eastern
Facilitator Charlie Mead Note taker(s) Julian, Tony
Attendee Name Affiliation
X Bond,Andy NEHTA
X Constable, Lorraine Constable Consulting Inc.
X Curry, Jane Health Information Strategies
X Dagnall, Bo HP Enterprise Services
X Grieve, Grahame Health Intersections Pty Ltd
X Hufnagel, Steve U.S. Department of Defense, Military Health System
X Julian, Tony Mayo Clinic
X Loyd, Patrick ICode Solutions
X Lynch, Cecil Accenture
X Mead, Charlie National Cancer Institute
. Milosevic, Zoran NEHTA
X Parker, Ron CA Infoway
. Quinn, John Health Level Seven, Inc.
. Guests
. Lloyd McKenzie HL7 Canada
. Legend
X Present
. Absent
R Regrets
Quorum Requirements Met: Yes

Minutes

  1. Call to order at 9:00am
  2. Agenda approved
  3. Charlie: What would FHIR like us to stay away from, and what to engage?
  4. Grahame: Formal task to define FHIR methodology, and implementation guide. Held a Draft-for-comment ballot, and connect-athon. We may get Arb involved in the architecture. Where does FHRI fit in the architecture?
  5. Ron: The BAM will rely on the people in the room to rely on experiences of people in the room. WIll use FHIR as the startup project, but did not want to burden the FHIR team. FHIR can help us define the behavior of the business, how you would see what your are doing rolling out in that model.
  6. Charlie: Directive from the TSC that the 2bBAM must include separation of product lines, with product line management. There may be core and derived product lines. There will be a clean separation between Management, governance, and methodology(MGM).
  7. Grahame: There is a gap between product lines from a BAM aspect. V2 and FHIR are platform products.
  8. Charlie: What does it mean to define a product line? Differences in MGM will indicate separate product lines. TSC believes that data-types may discrimnate product lines.
  9. Grahame: 21090 is not a product line.
  10. Charlie:TSC wants to focus on the 21090 problem.
  11. Ron: everone is struggling with deliniation of talking about/managing product lines. Each line does not have a single homogenous methodology. Part of challenge is to have people who are familiar with what they do now understand where they are places, and discover white-space. Bo will be the methodologist for the excercise - provide the rigor. We will start coarse-grained, and drill down. Most of August 30 call was centered on methodology for today.
  12. TSC report:
  13. Charlie: We have a basic framework based on TOGAF, ARCHIMATE, and OMG with SAIF-CD applied where feasable. We should include product line management and MGM. There was discussion of whether tonights presentation to the TSC should be wide, or deep. TSC wants it to be little bit wide, and little bit deep. In Vancouver there was a tutorial on governance with HL7 mappings. Two hours were terminology, 2 hours were methodology for services, 2 hours mapping the 11 step process into HL7 specifics, mapping the 32 governance precepts into HL7. TSC will do the risk profile. Charlie presented the mapping of the Thomas Erl to HL7. TSC made a few changes.
  14. Ron: We took the process of foundational elements and mapped it out into product development stages.
    1. Product-Line Adoption Planning ?
    2. Product Line Inventory ?
    3. CONCEPTUAL LEVEL Requirements ?
    4. Logical level artifact definition ?
    5. Logical level bindings ?
    6. Implementation Guide development ?
    7. Balloting Publication and Balloting ?
    8. DSTU Testing ?
    9. External publication of Specifications?
    10. Education and Marketing ?
    11. Artifact Versioning and Retirement (primarily controlled by ANSI et al).
  16. Bo: Framework for the BAM is the why/who/what/how the when is a container. Are there breakpoints in the timeline for the steps?
  17. Charlie: This reflects what is done, and reflects a generic product line process.
  18. Bo: Apply this to why/who/what/how.
  19. Charlie: Apply to product model process.
  20. Bo: Model the steps sequentially, will give us the breadth.
  21. Charlie: These steps are not necessarily one time through.
  22. Bo: Focus on enumeration of things.
  23. Charlie: We have addressed one of two principles - product line development. The HL7 process steps are placed in a table where rows are 11 precepts, columns activities, risks, precepts, process pattern, metrics.
  24. The group spent the remainder of the time beginning to fill out the table.

Q2

Meeting Information

HL7 ArB Work Group Meeting Minutes

Location: Baltimore, MD USA

Date: 20120909
Time: 11:00am U.S. Eastern
Facilitator Charlie Mead Note taker(s) Julian, Tony
Attendee Name Affiliation
X Bond,Andy NEHTA
X Constable, Lorraine Constable Consulting Inc.
X Curry, Jane Health Information Strategies
X Dagnall, Bo HP Enterprise Services
X Grieve, Grahame Health Intersections Pty Ltd
X Hufnagel, Steve U.S. Department of Defense, Military Health System
X Julian, Tony Mayo Clinic
X Loyd, Patrick ICode Solutions
X Lynch, Cecil Accenture
X Mead, Charlie National Cancer Institute
. Milosevic, Zoran NEHTA
X Parker, Ron CA Infoway
. Quinn, John Health Level Seven, Inc.
. Guests
. McKenzie, Lloyd HL7 Canada . . Kreisler, Austin HL7 TSC Chair .
. Legend
X Present
. Absent
R Regrets
Quorum Requirements Met: Yes

Minutes

  1. Continuation of the excercise started in Q1.
  2. Adjourned at 12:30 Pm U.S. Eastern

Q3

Meeting Information

HL7 ArB Work Group Meeting Minutes

Location: Baltimore, MD USA

Date: 20120909
Time: 1:45pm U.S. Eastern
Facilitator Charlie Mead Note taker(s) Julian, Tony
Attendee Name Affiliation
X Bond,Andy NEHTA
X Constable, Lorraine Constable Consulting Inc.
X Curry, Jane Health Information Strategies
X Dagnall, Bo HP Enterprise Services
. Grieve, Grahame Health Intersections Pty Ltd
X Hufnagel, Steve U.S. Department of Defense, Military Health System
X Julian, Tony Mayo Clinic
X Loyd, Patrick ICode Solutions
X Lynch, Cecil Accenture
X Mead, Charlie National Cancer Institute
. Milosevic, Zoran NEHTA
X Parker, Ron CA Infoway
. Quinn, John Health Level Seven, Inc.
. Guests
X Kreisler, Austin HL7 TSC Chair
. Legend
X Present
. Absent
R Regrets
Quorum Requirements Met: Yes

Minutes

  1. Continuation of high-level Business Architecture Model
  2. Adjourned at 3:00pm Eastern

Tony Julian 15:49, 27 September 2012 (UTC)

Thursday September 13, 2012

Thursday Q3

Thursday Q4

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