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During that session, reconciliation on the Cmets release 3 was '''COMPLETED''', and all but two line items on Core Principles Release 2 were approved.  The remaining items will be taken to conference calls.
 
During that session, reconciliation on the Cmets release 3 was '''COMPLETED''', and all but two line items on Core Principles Release 2 were approved.  The remaining items will be taken to conference calls.
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See [[FHIR_Agenda-Baltimore_WGM#Minutes|FHIR/MnM Minutes]] for Monday Q4.
  
 
= Tuesday Sep 11 Q4 =
 
= Tuesday Sep 11 Q4 =

Revision as of 14:22, 14 September 2012

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Sunday Sep 9 Q3

Attendees

Lloyd McKenzie, Abdul-Malik Shakir, Alexander Henket, Rik Smithies, Grahame Grieve, Ewout Kramer, Debbie Bogert, Rene Spronk, Hugh Glover, Woody Beeler, Jean Duteau, Kevin Coonan, Anita Walden

Agenda

Establish Agenda for WGM from Hot Topics

Steps:

  • Reviewed the existing Hot Topics
    • Close:
      • Object Equivalence
      • Context Conduction in Cyclic RIM graphs
    • Parking Lot:
      • HXIT for Associations

Alexander: Create a Design Pattern for "representing hierarchy using part/partOf"

  • Updated the Agenda with the proper quarters noted.
    • Dropping Tue Q1/Q2, Thu Q1/Q2 quarters
    • Meeting Wed Q1 for RIM hot topics and Handling Deprecated Attributes

Monday Sep 10 Q3

Attendees

Woody Beeler (and his shadow)

Agenda

Ballot Reconciliation - CMETS and Core Principles R2

Failed to achieve quorum, BUT ... the time was used to prepare Specific reconciliation proposals that were subsequently taken to the joint FHIR/MnM meeting in the following quarter.

During that session, reconciliation on the Cmets release 3 was COMPLETED, and all but two line items on Core Principles Release 2 were approved. The remaining items will be taken to conference calls.

See FHIR/MnM Minutes for Monday Q4.

Tuesday Sep 11 Q4

Attendees

Woody Beeler, Abdul-Malik Shakir, Lorraine Constable

Agenda

SAIF Artifact Definition Project

A plan for re-awakening the SAIF Artifact Definition project was created and approved (2/0/0)

Specifics of the plan are in a Powerpoint and related spreadsheet are posted on Gforge and were presented at the SAIF Architecture Project meeting on Wednesday, Q4. The plan for provides for focusing the effort on core definition content for artifacts that are currently in use or immediately needed. Currently plan to schedule a session on conference call during the Harmonization meeting period, if time is available

Wednesday Sep 12 Q1

Attendees

Woody Beeler, Abdul-Malik Shakir

Agenda

Handling Deprecated Attributes

We reviewed the current set of attributes that need to be retired, but which have not been removed owing to dependent designs. Agreed that all but one of these changes replaced the deprecated attribute with a semantically-equivalent construct that could be substituted "automatically". The remaining change - context conduction - needs further analysis. It is likely that some fraction of these could also be replaced "automatically", but that it is also likely that not all such changes could be done.

Beeler agreed to undertake to analyze these and offer (propose) a Harmonization change and a proposed strategy for review during the Harmonization interim conference calls.

Thursday May 17 Evening

Attendees

Woody - TSC (report), Grahame - MnM, Ewout - FHIR, Mead - PatSafety/RCRIM, Alexander - PatAdmin (report), Rob - Vocab (report), Lloyd - MnM (report), Wendy - Vocab, Ted - Vocab (report), Dale - ITS (report), Norman - AnatPath, Kevin - EmergCare/PatCare (report), Hugh - Pharmacy (report), Joginder - PHER (report), Jean (Scribe) - MnM,Pharm (report), Lorraine - OO (report), AMS (Chair) - MnM/CIC

Agenda

Harmonization Dates

  • Sunday, October 7, 2012 11:59PM - Harmonization Preliminary Proposal Deadline
  • Tuesday, October 16, 2012 12:00PM - Harmonization Technical Reviewe
  • Sunday, October 28, 2012 11:59PM - Harmonization Final Proposal Deadline
  • Tuesday, November 6, 2012 12:00-4:00PM - Harmonization Meetings
  • WednesdayNovember 7, 2012 12:00-4:00PM - Harmonization Meetings
  • Thursday, November 8, 2012 12:00-4:00PM - Harmonization Meetings
  • Friday, November 9, 2012 12:00-4:00PM - Harmonization Meetings
  • March 5-8, 2013
  • July 23-26, 2013
  • November 12-15, 2013

Facilitator Report

  • OO (Lorraine) - CPM meeting to discuss Wire-Format Backward Compatibility, work on Nutrition Order and Specimen modelling, harmonization proposals to come from *Nutrition work
  • PHER (Joginder) - Immunization v3 passed normative, CDA IGs to ballot
  • Pharmacy (Hugh) - Med Order R2, Dispense R2, Medication Profile. Looking at core definitions to ensure consistency, one harmonization proposal from Pharmacy
  • PatCare (Kevin) - Care Record passed normative. DCM DSTU project going forward, discussion about the role DAMs play in the HDF (joint with CIC and other groups), ActRelationshipType from MnM, confidentialityCode from Security, Patient Care has a struggle with the List Act class.
  • ITS (Dale) - balloting will depend on the outcome of the Datatypes Task Force, ITS R2 Guide passed ballot
  • Vocab (Ted) - work done on Terminology Authority PSS, lots of work with IHTSDO and SNOMED, v2 Tables review project work, continuing work on binding syntax and binding model
  • Vocab (Rob) - work towards a TermInfo DSTU ballot
  • PatAdmin (Alexander) - two harmonization ballots, working with FHIR resources (SubjectOfCare, Person, Organization, Agent), removed some old material, align CMETs for Patient and Person with the balloted topics
  • TSC (Woody) - Each product line will have a Governance Board. FHIR is the first one and has a Governance Board and a Management Group. GB will develop the principles, MG will coordinate the activities amongst the work groups. TSC has a task force formed to look at the datatypes backwards compatibility
  • FHIR/MnM (Lloyd) - see powerpoint presentation by Lloyd. FHIR will be scheduling with the various workgroups for Jan WGM

Parking Lot Items

  • Act class LIST - guidance on the use of this class. What is a "Dynamic" list? ACTION (Kevin Coonan): Create a M&M Hot Topic on this for discussion at a future conference call.
  • HDF Status as a Methodology Guide - the project closed and was intended to be taken over by the SAIF project. The generation of Domain Analysis Models has taken off since then and the HDF is not clear on how to this correctly. Questions on this would be take this forward to the SAIF Artifact Definition process.
  • CMET Alignment implication - the concern will be with the semantic compatibility of the new CMETs and whether harmonization with the new domain models breaks the semantic compatibility. ACTION (Alexander): Create a new M&M Hot Topic to be discussed in a future M&M conference call.
  • Terminology Authority Discussion at Harmonization - ACTION: Discuss this at the upcoming Harmonization meeting
  • Deprecated Attributes for Harmonization - ACTION (Woody): M&M will submit a proposal to deal with these attributes
  • Artifact Definition Project at Harmonization - Do that during a regular M&M conference call.

Friday May 18 Q1

Attendees

Agenda

MnM Business and Planning Mtg