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[[Category:2009 MnM Minutes]]
 
=M&M Conference Call Noon Eastern Time (Date above)=
 
=M&M Conference Call Noon Eastern Time (Date above)=
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==Attendees==
 
==Attendees==
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* Mead Walker
 
* Mead Walker
 
* Leslie Flaherty
 
* Leslie Flaherty
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* Ravi Natarajan
  
 
==Agenda==
 
==Agenda==
 
*Approve [[MnM_Minutes_CC_20090123| Minutes January 23]]
 
*Approve [[MnM_Minutes_CC_20090123| Minutes January 23]]
* [[RMIM Diagram Representation]]
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* Hot Topic -- [[RMIM Diagram Representation]]
 
*Other TBD
 
*Other TBD
  
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* Woody gave an update on the Tooling WG's decision to make sure graphic notation is not dependent on color only to distinguish different types of things.
 
* Woody gave an update on the Tooling WG's decision to make sure graphic notation is not dependent on color only to distinguish different types of things.
 
* '''Motion''' (Patrick/Andy) to approve last week's minutes.  Motion accepted unanimously.
 
* '''Motion''' (Patrick/Andy) to approve last week's minutes.  Motion accepted unanimously.
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===Hot Topic -- [[RMIM Diagram Representation]]===
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* Because of issues in supporting the traditional HL7 iconography using 3rd party tools (e.g. eclipse UML diagraming tools) there is a discussion about what approach HL7 should take in the future for representing artifacts graphically.
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* Woody pointed out that we currently don't have a common example in each of the proposed representations that we can use to compare the representations effectively.
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* Questions we need to consider:
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** How willing are HL7 members to move to a new representation?
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** What are the perceived requirements?
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** How would we make a transition?  Training?
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** What are the costs associated in making a change?  This will clearly be a major effort.
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* Lloyd reviewed the benefits of each representation as described in the [[RMIM Diagram Representation|hot topic]].
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* Do we believe HL7 should have a single diagram syntax for RMIMs and HMDs?
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* Are we committed to leaving the Visio tools?  Tooling WG has said that the direction is to move from Visio to an Eclipse-based equivalent.  The consensus on the call is that no one wants to stay on Visio-based tooling.
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* Does it make sense, just to move away from Visio, to move to a non-traditional representation for a period of time and then to move back once the traditional representation can be supported on non-Visio tools?
  
  
 
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Latest revision as of 01:33, 21 May 2010

M&M Conference Call Noon Eastern Time (Date above)

Attendees

  • Woody Beeler
  • Dale Nelson
  • Andy Stechishin
  • Austin Kreisler
  • Bernard Jackson
  • Brandon Urlich
  • Craig Parker
  • Gregg Seppala
  • Ioana Singureanu
  • Patrick Loyd
  • Lloyd McKenzie
  • Mead Walker
  • Leslie Flaherty
  • Ravi Natarajan

Agenda

Minutes

  • Woody gave an update on the Tooling WG's decision to make sure graphic notation is not dependent on color only to distinguish different types of things.
  • Motion (Patrick/Andy) to approve last week's minutes. Motion accepted unanimously.

Hot Topic -- RMIM Diagram Representation

  • Because of issues in supporting the traditional HL7 iconography using 3rd party tools (e.g. eclipse UML diagraming tools) there is a discussion about what approach HL7 should take in the future for representing artifacts graphically.
  • Woody pointed out that we currently don't have a common example in each of the proposed representations that we can use to compare the representations effectively.
  • Questions we need to consider:
    • How willing are HL7 members to move to a new representation?
    • What are the perceived requirements?
    • How would we make a transition? Training?
    • What are the costs associated in making a change? This will clearly be a major effort.
  • Lloyd reviewed the benefits of each representation as described in the hot topic.
  • Do we believe HL7 should have a single diagram syntax for RMIMs and HMDs?
  • Are we committed to leaving the Visio tools? Tooling WG has said that the direction is to move from Visio to an Eclipse-based equivalent. The consensus on the call is that no one wants to stay on Visio-based tooling.
  • Does it make sense, just to move away from Visio, to move to a non-traditional representation for a period of time and then to move back once the traditional representation can be supported on non-Visio tools?


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