OO CRLRI-005 - OBX-14 (Date/Time of the Observation) Comments
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Submitted by: Eric Haas | Revision date: Jan 21 2014 |
Submitted date: Jan 21 2014 | Change request ID: OO CRLRI-005 |
Standard/IG: Implementation Guide | Artifact ID, Name: OBX-14 (Date/Time of the Observation) Comments |
Issue
Conflicting comments in LRI regarding what date should go in OBX.14.
Note:
- 1) the datatype for OBX-14 and SPM.17.1(Specimen Collection
- Date/Time -Range Start Date/Time) are TS_4,
- and OBR-7(Observation Date/Time ) and SPM.17.2(Specimen Collection
- Date/Time -Range End Date/Time) are TS_5. ( This is a CR covered in OO CRLRI-006)
- 2) The SPM group can repeat.
- Currently OBX.14 comments states:
" For specimen based test, if it is valued it must be the same as SPM-17
If SPM-17 is present and relates to the same observation, then OBX-14 must
be within the DR range"
- SPM.17 comment states:
" For OBXs reporting observations based on this specimen, OBX-14 should contain the
same value as component 1 of one of the SPM-17.1 values under the OBR. "
- as well as a usage note under OBR:
"The date/time of those OBXs that relate to the actual result should have OBX-14 equal to OBR-7. "
- and one under the OBX:
"For an OBX that reflects a an( <-- note typo) actual result for the test requested, rather than including
additional information such as ask at order entry responses, OBX-14 (Date/Time of the Observations
should be identical to OBR-7 (Observation Date/Time). "
In LOI there is no comment.
Changes made in the PH Profile ( ERL-R2)
- OBX.14 comments states:
... "...For specimen based test, if it is valued it must be the same as SPM-17.1 If SPM-17.2 is present and relates to the same observation, then OBX-14 must be within the DR range...."
- Plus a Conformance statement ( since the comment contains a "must")
"ELR-72: OBX-14 (Date/Time of the Observation) For observation related to testing of specimen (OBX's following the OBR), SHALL be identical to an occurrence of SPM-17.1 (Range Start Date/Time) value within the same ORDER_OBSERVATION Group. "
Recommendation
- Remove usage note under the OBR and OBX
- for OBX.14 comment
"For specimen based test, if it is valued it must be the same as as one of the SPM-17.1(Specimen Collection Range Start Date/Time) values under the same OBR." - Adopt Conformance statement ELR-72 which is testable if adopting OBX-29 (Observation Type) <-- yet another LRI CR
- For SPM-17 comment
"For OBXs reporting observations based on this specimen, OBX-14 shall contain the same value as one of the SPM-17.1(Specimen Collection Range Start Date/Time) values under the same OBR. "
Rationale
To clarify what should go into OBX-14 and remove confusion and redundancy.
Discussion
Recommended Action Items
Resolution
7/24/14 - Motion to accept as modified - Eric Haas, Hans Buitendijk
1 Remove usage note under the OBR and OBX
2 for OBX.14 comment ""...For specimen based test, if it is valued it must be the same as SPM-17.1 If SPM-17.2 is present and relates to the same observation, then OBX-14 must be within the DR range...."
3 For SPM-17 comment "...For specimen based test, if only SPM-17.1 is valued it must be the same as OBX-14. If both SPM-17.1 and SPM-17.2 are present and relates to the same observation, then OBX-14 must be within this DR range...."
Against: 0 Abstain: 4 In Favor: 5