Health Care Devices (DEV) WG MTG 2012-01 San Antonio
Contents
- 1 Minutes of the meeting of the Health Care Devices WG of HL7 at the HL7 WGM, San Antonio, Texas, January 15-20, joint meeting with ISO/IEEE 11073 Medical Device Communications General Committee
- 1.1 Monday, January 15, Q1
- 1.2 Monday Q2
- 1.3 Monday Q3
- 1.4 Monday Q4
- 1.5 Tuesday, January 16, Q1
- 1.6 Tuesday Q2
- 1.7 Tuesday Q3
- 1.8 Tuesday Q4
- 1.9 Wednesday, January 18, Q1
- 1.10 Wednesday Q2
- 1.11 Wednesday Q3
- 1.12 Wednesday Q4
- 1.13 Thursday, January 19, 2012
- 1.14 Thursday Q1
- 1.15 Thursday Q2
- 1.16 Thursday Q3
- 1.17 Thursday Q4
Minutes of the meeting of the Health Care Devices WG of HL7 at the HL7 WGM, San Antonio, Texas, January 15-20, joint meeting with ISO/IEEE 11073 Medical Device Communications General Committee
John Rhoads, presiding co-chair, HL7 Health Care Devices WG
Jan Wittenber, chairman of IEEE Upper Layers Committee, chairman pro tem of IEEE 11073 General Committee (so designated by co-chairs Todd Cooper and Melvin Reynolds)
Minutes taken by John Rhoads
Monday, January 15, Q1
Present:
Jan Wittenber, Philips Healthcare John Rhoads, Philips Healthcare John Garguilo, NIST Sandra Martinez, NIST Carol Macumber, Apelon Trish Williams, HL7 Australia Kathryn Bennett, IEEE Masaaki Hirai, Nihon Kohden Ken Fuchs, IEEE Paul Schluter, GE Healthcare Allen Hobbs, Kaiser Permanente
The number of WG members present constitute a quorum.
Review of Agenda
Approval of minutes deferred to a later session
Co-chair elections
Topics discussed:
joint work with Generation of Anesthesia Standards on CDA representation of device data
HL7 over the spectrum of care - work ongoing on the classical starting environment (acute care), beginning on long term care, HL7 HCD has mostly deferred to IHE PCD, IEEE PHD, and Continua
Status of Work in IEEE 11073 (Bennett presenting) - start
Monday Q2
Present:
Jan Wittenber, Philips Healthcare John Rhoads, Philips Healthcare John Garguilo, NIST Sandra Martinez, NIST Carol Macumber, Apelon (not on WG listserv, so not voting on HL7 HCD matters) Trish Williams, HL7 Australia (not on WG listserv, so not voting on HL7 HCD matters) Kathryn Bennett, IEEE Masaaki Hirai, Nihon Kohden Ken Fuchs, IEEE (not on WG listserv, so not voting on HL7 HCD matters) Paul Schluter, GE Healthcare Allen Hobbs, Kaiser Permanente
The number of WG members present constitute a quorum.
Vote to create additional co-chair position in the HL7 Health Care Devices WG
John Rhoads stepped down temporarily as presiding co-chair in order to make a motion and to participate in discussions in which he could be perceived to have an interest, designating Jan Wittenber as co-chair pro tem presiding over the deliberations and vote on the question. He moved that an additional co-chair position be created, and nominated Alan Hobbs as interim co-chair in the newly created position, pending a regular co-chair election at the next HL7 Working Group meeting.
The voice vote on the motion to add a co-chair position was unanimous in favor.
The paper ballot on the person to be interim co-chair in that position was unanimous for Allen Hobbs.
At this point, John Rhoads resumed as presiding co-chair of HL7 HCD. Discussion of HL7 status resumed
Topics discussed:
Recent publications and work in progress in individual ISO/IEEE 11073 family standards documents
Projected mappings between 11073-10101 nomenclature and other nomenclatures such as LOINC and IHTSDO.
Change in IEEE balloting due to ANSI requirement: ballot group formerly could not be in more than 50% of one category (e.g. vendor). New threshold is no more than 33% of one category.
Monday Q3
Present:
Jan Wittenber, Philips Healthcare John Rhoads, Philips Healthcare John Garguilo, NIST Sandra Martinez, NIST Kathryn Bennett, IEEE Ken Fuchs, IEEE (not on WG listserv, so not voting on HL7 HCD matters) Paul Schluter, GE Healthcare Allen Hobbs, Kaiser Permanente
The number of WG members present constitute a quorum.
Topics discussed
Do we need to stop co-locating ISO/IEEE 11072 with HL7 Working Group Meetings. Issue is that ISO has a policy that ISO meetings cannot be where there is a substantial meeting fee, as at HL7. Issue raised by ISO TC 215 secretariat Joe Llewelling (AAMI). Disposition: refer question to 11073 leadership.
Monday Q4
Present:
Jan Wittenber, Philips Healthcare John Rhoads, Philips Healthcare John Garguilo, NIST Sandra Martinez, NIST Kathryn Bennett, IEEE Ken Fuchs, IEEE (not on WG listserv, so not voting on HL7 HCD matters) Paul Schluter, GE Healthcare Allen Hobbs, Kaiser Permanente
The number of WG members present constitute a quorum.
Topics discussed
11073 General Committee Co-chair status -- Todd Cooper and Melvin Reynolds do not generally have funding to attend meetings, and they have not been able to attend some recent meetings, including this one. This may create problems having meetings and keeping records in compliance with relevant policies and procedures.
Jan Wittenber will initiate a meeting of all co-chairs and other leadership (Upper Layers, Lower Layers, General Committee, Personal Health Devices, and sponsor) to find out intentions of incumbents, consider adding a co-chair, consider meeting venue issues, and report back.
National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) device communications testing
Presented by John Garguilo, Sandra Martinez
Presented results from new "isolated" test tools used in Pre-Connectathon testing by Integrating the Healthcare Enterprise (IHE) Patient Care Device (PCD) domain.
Discussion of imminent (end of January) roll-out of Rosetta Terminology Mapping Management Service (RTMMS) for collaborative terminology management between, initially, IHE PCD and ISO/IEEE 11073-10101 Nomenclature (and eventually, mapping to related terminology items from LOINC and SNOMED). Presented process by which terms will be reviewed.
Have recently added annotated ECG terms, also systematic name, common term, acronym and term description information from the standard.
Garguilo demonstrated new RTMMS capabilities.
See slides associated with this session:
Kathryn Bennett, IEEE N0354_11073 Update 1-16-2012.pptx
John Garguilo, NIST (slides not yet submitted)
Tuesday, January 16, Q1
Present:
Alan Hobbs, Kaiser Permanente Paul Schluter, GE Healthcare Martin Entwistle, Palo Alto Medical Foundation Ken Fuchs, Mindray North America Kathlryn Bennett, IEEE Carol Macumber, Apelon Sandra Martinez, NIST John Rhoads, Philips Healthcare, presiding co-chair, HL7 Health Care Devices WG Jan Wittenber, Phlips Healthcare, Chair pro tem of IEEE 11073 General Committee
The number of WG members present constitute a quorum.
Topics discussed:
Presentation by Martinez, Garguilo from National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) on Test Case Authoring and Management Tool
Tool will be used for HL7 profile conformance testing in Integrating the Healthcare Enterprise Patient Care Device (IHE PCD) domain, and it is proposed for change tracking and maintenance.
Intended scope of:
RTMMS database - should it include unit of measure co-constraints? Enumerations?
Similarly, should the IEEE 11073-10101 standard contain these things?
Lively discussion.
Adjourned at 5:15.
Tuesday Q2
Present:
Alan Hobbs, Kaiser Permanente Paul Schluter, GE Healthcare Martin Entwistle, Palo Alto Medical Foundation Ken Fuchs, Mindray North America Il Kon Kim, Kyongook National University, Korea Kathlryn Bennett, IEEE Catherine Chronaki, HL7 Greece Sandra Martinez, NIST Jay Lyle, Veterans Health Administration John Rhoads, Philips Healthcare, presiding co-chair, HL7 Health Care Devices WG Jan Wittenber, Phlips Healthcare, Chair pro tem of IEEE 11073 General Committee
The number of WG members present constitutes a quorum.
Discussion of the process of moving currently available forms of the 2004 edition of IEEE 11073-10101 standard and merging with more recent editions to make a new edition.
Consensus to initiate a "tiger team" effort to make a concentrated effort to organize the data needed for this.
Details of life cycle of a term in RTMMS.
Tuesday Q3
The number of WG members present constitute a quorum.
Present:
Alan Hobbs, Kaiser Permanente Paul Schluter, GE Healthcare Martin Entwistle, Palo Alto Medical Foundation Ken Fuchs, Mindray North America Il Kon Kim, Kyongook National University, Korea Kathlryn Bennett, IEEE Catherine Chronaki, HL7 Greece Sandra Martinez, NIST Jay Lyle, Veterans Health Administration John Rhoads, Philips Healthcare, presiding co-chair, HL7 Health Care Devices WG Jan Wittenber, Phlips Healthcare, Chair pro tem of IEEE 11073 General Committee
The number of WG members present constitutes a quorum.
Very lengthy discussion of hierarchical containment of metrics, Paul Schluter offering several representations and asserting a close relationship with event representation. No conclusion at this time.
Tuesday Q4
Alan Hobbs, Kaiser Permanente Paul Schluter, GE Healthcare Ken Fuchs, Mindray North America Kathryn Bennett, IEEE Sandra Martinez, NIST John Rhoads, Philips Healthcare, presiding co-chair, HL7 Health Care Devices WG Jan Wittenber, Phlips Healthcare, Chair pro tem of IEEE 11073 General Committee
The number of WG members present constitute a quorum.
Continuing the event discussion, Wittenber suggested another "tiger team" with representatives from vendors to collect and collate alarms and events emitted by the devices.
Further discussion of representation of events and attributes.
Displayed and discussed Griesser UML model generated from NIST ICSGenerator XML schema.
Adjourned at 5 pm
HL7 Working Group Meetings, Wednesday, January 17, 2012
Wednesday, January 18, Q1
Present
Jan Wittenber, Philips Healthcare, chair pro tem of IEEE 11073 General Committee John Rhoads, Philips Healthcare, presiding co-chair, HL7 Health Care Devices WG Terri Monk, Duke University John Walsh, Massachusetts General Hospital Sadami Tabesaba, HL7 Japan Masaaki Hirai, HL7 Japan Carol Macumber, Apelon, for US Veterans Administration Tricia Greim, US Veterans Administration Paul Schluter, GE Healthcare Martin Hurrell, HL7 Generation of Anesthesia WG
The number of WG members constitute a quorum.
Martin Hurrell reported on joint project of DEV with Generation of Anesthesia WG (G.A.S) to create a Clinical Documents Architecture R2 compliant representation of device data.
Project Scope Statement for project approved at Domain Exports Steering Division meeting on Monday. Meeting pointed up the need to study vital signs representations in Patient Care WG. (Later conversations outside the meeting pointed out the need to harmonize with existing Structured Documents work).
A very simple blood pressure example was presented and discussed.
The appropriate use of such a data representation was much discussed.
Wednesday Q2
Present:
Jan Wittenber, Philips Healthcare Paul Schluter, GE Healthcare Alan Hobbs, Kaiser Permanente John Rhoads, Philips Healthcare
The quarter was planned to be a joint telephone conference with domain experts on ventilator terminology, but the cost of using a conference phone was prohibitive, so the session was cancelled.
Wednesday Q3
Present:
Jan Wittenber, Philips Healthcare, chair pro tem of IEEE 11073 General Committee John Rhoads, Philips Healthcare, presiding co-chair, HL7 Health Care Devices WG Tracy Rausch, DocBox John Garguilo, NIST Sandra Martinez, NIST Sadami Tabesaba, HL7 Japan Masaaki Hirai, Nihon Kohden, HL7 Japan Paul Schluter, GE Healthcare
The number of WG members present constitute a quorum.
IEEE 11073 Personal Health Device status update
Expected slide deck was not received, so Wittenber and Schluter gave an update based on minutes and tutorial slides.
ASTM Integrated Clinical Environment questions to 11073 (Rausch)
How will 11073 approach security concerns
Demographics need updates to harmonize with, e.g. HITSP
Communications
Patient location
Control
Wednesday Q4
Present:
Jan Wittenber, Philips Healthcare, chair pro tem of IEEE 11073 General Committee John Rhoads, Philips Healthcare, presiding co-chair, HL7 Health Care Devices WG Tracy Rausch, DocBox Sandra Martinez, NIST Allen Hobbs, Kaiser Permanente Sadami Tabesaba, HL7 Japan Masaaki Hirai, Nihon Kohden, HL7 Japan Paul Schluter, GE Healthcare
The number of WG members present constitutes a forum.
Continuation of ICE and 11073 harmonization discussion
Simple example of common of significant lack of communication between devices: NIBP cuff placed on same arm as (1) an SpO2 sensor (2) an IV line. ICE proposes a higher level of integration which could assist by displaying or asking the question, is the clinical rule that being followed. Or an ICE supervisor may be able to integrate the information from another source.
Discussion of ICE supervisor and 11073 as layers in a layered system, and the regulatory implications of that.
Including and processing "Quality-of-measurement" data and requirements for use cases.
Requirement to be able to distinguish statically specified or dynamically changing quality of measurements attributes.
Thursday, January 19, 2012
Thursday Q1
Present:
Paul Schluter, GE Healthcare Tracy Rausch, DocBox Allen Hobbs, Kaiser Permanente, presiding co-chair Sandra Martinez, NIST John Garguilo, NIST John Rhoads, Philips Healthcare Jan Wittenber, Philips Healthcare
The number of WG members present constitutes a quorum.
Proceedings:
The winners of the co-chair election, Todd Cooper and Allen Hobbs, were announced and congratulated.
John Garguilo suggested we reconsider a motion passed earlier this week. A motion was approved to create an additional co-chair commission in consideration of increased WG load and the difficulty of getting co-chairs funded to attend HL7 WGMs. A further motion designated Allen Hobbs as an interim co-chair to fill this incremental position. Since Allen Hobbs had won the regular election to fill the an existing co-chair position, the intent of the WG in establishing the extra position was not being met. John Gargiulo moved that the second motion be vacated and John Rhoads named to fill the interim co-chair position. The motion was passed unanimously.
Discussion Topics:
DCM4MD project intends to ballot their document again in the May ballot
Review of IHE PCD's Point-of-Care Identity Management project. First draft document expected soon from Robert Flanders, GE Healthcare. Much modelling of use cases has been done by John Rhoads, and modelling from the HL7 HCD WGs DCM4MD project. Task is to harmonize and factor the models and associated transactions, and progress the Flanders document to a draft Supplement.
Thursday Q2
Vincent McCauley, McCauley Software, HL7 Australia Paul Schluter, GE Healthcare Masaaki Hirai, Nihon Kohden, HL7 Japan Sadami Tabesaba, HL7 Japan Tracy Rausch, DocBox Ilkon Kim, Kyongook National University, HL7 Korea Allen Hobbs, Kaiser Permanente, presiding chair Sandra Martinez, National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) John Garguilo, NIST John Rhoads, Philips Healthcare Jan Wittenber, Philips Healthcare
Wittenber presented Revision and Development based on IEEE 11073 standards and revision PARs, but also emphasizing the detailed interdependancies with other standards and profiling groups (Health Level 7, Integrating the Health Enterprise Patient Care Device domain, NIST, International Electrotechnical Commission, International Healthcare Terminology Standards Development Organization, Continua Alliance, International Standards Organization).
Tracy Rausch agreed to work with Wittenber on adding detail to the interdependancy matrix.
Thursday Q3
Paul Schluter, GE Healthcare Tracy Rausch, DocBox Allen Hobbs, Kaiser Permanente, presiding chair Sandra Martinez, National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) John Garguilo, NIST John Rhoads, Philips Healthcare Jan Wittenber, Philips Healthcare
IEEE 11073 Upper Layers standards status:
Comments have been received and are being incorporated on documents IEEE 11073-10201, Domain Information Model, and -20101 (MDAP Base Standard.
Lower Layers status:
-30503 wLAN withdrawn administratively
Internetworking services PAR withdrawn administratively with intent to resubmit new PAR
Nomenclature Globalization Verification and Validation team to be set up by a subcommittee (Martinez, Schluter, Wittenber Rhoads, Garguilo, Hobbs) at teleconference on 1/26/2012, with the task of developing a set of new nomenclature terms based on Rosetta set based on existing requests. See "Dev/Rev Plans" exhibit in meeting documents.
Thursday Q4
Paul Schluter, GE Healthcare Tracy Rausch, DocBox Allen Hobbs, Kaiser Permanente, presiding chair Sandra Martinez, National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) John Garguilo, NIST John Rhoads, Philips Healthcare Jan Wittenber, Philips Healthcare
Continuation of Dev / Rev Plan discussion, with extended discussion of alternatives for the form of reference IDs. To be referred to subcommittee mentioned above under Q3.
Meeting of the Health Care Devices WG and the IEEE 11073 General Committee was adjourned at 4:30 pm, purposing to reconvene in Vancouver in May.
At a further informal meeting on Friday Q1 with no quorum present, Paul Schluter and Jan Wittenber drafted a "Nomen" document for further discussion by subcommittee prior to Vancouver meeting..