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- Request LOINC document codes, or LOINC question for prior document type with answers
- Request LOINC harmonize (collapse) 11373-8 (DEEDs) & 69543-7 (EMS)
- Ask EC why DEEDs & CCDA specify Dx as LOINC's narr version 11535-2 rather than Nom 8651-2
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- C-CDA uses SCT for Dx; EMS uses ICD10. Use translation for now; change EMS? Use C-CDA.
- Request CIC, PC, EC, VOC to harmonize disposition values for ED and Inpatient. No distinction: one document. If encounters are regarded as distinct, two documents would be appropriate.
- Prior report? External document
- Confirm UB04 currency. Used in C-CDA 1.1
- Is Cause a sub-entry to diagnosis or complaint? No; it gets its own section.
- ED diagnosis: admit or discharge? Discharge.
- ICU length: new encounter with timestamp, or observation? Observation
- Ventilator days: sum of procedure times, or observation? Observation
- Outcome: doesn’t seem to fit CCDA assumptions for Functional, but Assessment
- How much should this specification leverage C-CDA templates? We wish to make generation and comparison as easy as possible for implementers: does using an exising template with much superfluous information that may be nullified make things easier or harder? Should we follow the structural pattern without asserting conformance?
- See analysis
- NEMSIS prefers alignment; SD also suggests it's worthwhile unless implementers complain (BM 8/12)
- How to assert context & differentiate ED and Inpatient data? Using 2 uber-sections, each containing, e.g., procedures.
- And can we mix content--can an uber-section contain both sections and entries?
- No: use act reference to encounter context. (BM 8/12)
- C-CDA: Diagnosis in SCT, trans to ICD. NEMSIS expects ICD. Null the code and include translation? Or just don't use CCDA?
- See above: conform.
- Are there alternatives to use of LOINC 75859-9 Rankin scale for outcome? Typically used for neurology, but no explicit constraint.
- Can SD define deterministic rules for how to display in-line examples drawn from a validated holistic example? This would greatly improve the quality and efficiency of example generation.
- How do discharge summaries typically report discharge disposition for both inpatient & ED?
- ED discharge isn't really a 'discharge'; not standard (JM 8/12)