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DoF 2016-08-03
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Attendees
- Todd Cooper (BSF), Chris Courville (Epic), Bill Kleinebecker (Strategic Pathways), Parris Lucas (Ascom), Beth Pumo (KP), Brian Reinhold (LNI), John Rhoads (Philips)
Agenda/Minutes
- Introductions, Agenda Review, etc.
- Approve Minutes from previous calls:
- 2016.07.20 APPROVED
- 2016.07.27 APPROVED
- DEV WG FHIR PSS - Status Update (Cooper)
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- > PSS is now out for a 10 day review / approval for the DESD (Domain Experts Steering Division, under the HL7 TSC (Technical Steering Committee))
- DoF Roadmapping Discussion Preview
- > Todd will start drafting a 12 month DoF Roadmap based on the new PSS and scheduled meetings / events
- Resource Status: DeviceUseRequest, DeviceUseStatement
- > Chris clarified that the DEV WG, which was initially assigned these two resources, indicated that they did not want to "own" them, but they also didn't "deprecate" them
- > HL7 CDS determined that they needed the two resources for workflow management, events that indicate the need for device use and then subsequent documentation
- > Group indicated that they would like to be in-the-loop regarding the definition and use of these two resources, possibly including a section in an IG
- > ACTION(Todd) Contact the group responsible for these two resources and ensure that the DoF team is included
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- Final Review of FHIR Documentation Updates (Courville)
- NOTE milestone dates
- > Deferred to next meeting; Chris was not able to join the meeting until later in this agenda
- Mapping Update (Rhoads)
- > John is progressing the mapping effort, but it is not yet complete; will report out next week
- > General question as to the mechanics of formalizing and publishing the mappings in FHIR
- - Stefan may understand this area better, but is out on vacation
- - NOTE: Not all FHIR specification components have "production" mechanisms; for example, IG's
- - ALSO mappings should include additional detail around Use Context, detailing WHEN a given mapping is valid
- - ACTION(Todd) confer with the FHIR powers to see if they can provide clarity on these questions
- DIM to FHIR
- > NOTE: This is the approach prefered by Continua, since devices communicate using 100% 11073 protocols and content
- > For PoCD, today most content is sent in V2-based ORU messaging;
- > A representative set of example models needs to be established to illustrate and validate the proposed mappings;
- - For PHD devices, these exist in the 11073-104xx specializations
- - For PoCD devices, these mostly exist in the IHE PCD TF-3 and related specification files; perhaps the ongoing infusion pump data set and modeling can be used, as well as a physiological monitor model (and OpenSDC)
- DIM to V2 to FHIR
- > ACTION(Todd] Provide a more complete PoCD PCD-01 message example to the group
- PHD Mapping Example (Reinhold)
- > Brian provided a tour of a detailed PHD mapping spreadsheet that he sent out to the group last week.
- > Discussion included ...
- - Time management challenges; time management issues have been addressed in the PCD-01 coincident time stamp. The Observation of the PHD’s current time at the PHG’s current time is a way to provide the same information in FHIR.
- - ASN.1 BITS data type mapping to FHIR still an issue (entered as a tracker item); so those mappings are TBD
- - observation.component leveraged heavily for many of the more complex data element mappings, including EEG or acceleration (X, Y, Z axis values)
- - QUESTION: When should these be handled by a FHIR Resource extension? NOTE that FHIR with its 80/20 rule assumes that profiling with extensions will be frequenly used; however, this always comes with a cost / impact on systems that have to support recognition and processing of these "standardized" extensions. DoF will have to come to a consensus on how to strike the right balance.
- - Metric source reference handle is an example of a mapping implementation challenge; there are design approaches, but they generally result in painful LoC increases and the resulting higher potential for bugs
- FHIR Connectathon Updates
- 2016 September (Baltimore WGM)
- - Who will be participating - F2F / Remotely
- > Brian hopes to be participating but still TBD; will bring an "uploader" and a number of PHD devices
- > Stefan will participate and hopefully bring one or more real devices [he was out on vacation for this meeting]
- > John Rhoads will participate as an observer
- > Todd will hopefully participate, but most likely remotely; TBD if it is as an observer / facilitator or with a data source / consuming app
- - Who has used a public FHIR server
- > Brian has used a number of public servers including at the May Connectathon in Canada; assume Draeger has well, but not there to report out
- > NOTE: Brian emphasized that the STU3 servers have considerably more conformance checking; so if an implementation passed using an STU2 implementation, it may run into problems with the STU3 implementations!
- - CDS Support (specifically for devices):
- > Identify device partners (Todd)
- > Integrate device with HAPI FHIR Server (Claude with support from Todd)
- Need to specify topic, event type, …
- > Need to adapt CareWeb plugin to visualize device discrete data/waveform (Esteban)
- > CDS applied to device data (tentative: for-connectathon)
- - Waveform data?
- 2016 November (Amsterdam DevDays)
- - Coordination with Continua & Furore (Ewout)
- > ACTION(Todd) continue to reach out to Michael Kirwin regarding coordination w/ DoF on the November FHIR track supported by Continua
- - ?V2 to FHIR Mapping Service?
- - Use of FHIR DevDays (Furore) server?
- > ACTION(Todd) get URL from Ewout for this server + timing and conditions for use
- DEV WG Baltimore (2016.09) Meetings
- Post Connectathon "Mortem" (Saturday evening or Sunday?)
- Who will be @ DEV WG meetings?
- > Chris Courville (possibly), John Rhoads, Brian Reinhold (TBD)
- Topics for DEV-FHIR Joint Session?
- - FMM Status Update
- - FHIR Connectathon Report
- - Roadmap Review: PSS, Connectathons, etc.
- - General DoF Issues Review (collected between here and there)
- - <Other?>
- > Add: Outstanding Device-related Tracker Items
- Other Business
- Plan next meeting 2016.08.10