20170321 arb minutes

ARB - Meeting (Date in Title)

Agenda

1. Call to order
2. Roll Call
3. Approval of Agenda and Minutes
4. Management
5. Governance
6. Methodology
   • TSC TASKs:
     1. At March 20, 2017 TSC, Wayne asked that we review the available product types as represented in the GOM, and define them. Specifically he was asking what is a Functional Model (since a Service Functional Model has been proposed as something different).
     2. He also asked ARB to compare to the values for Type in the Standards Master Grid, which doesn’t match the GOM values at all.
     3. Canonical DAM Line 190: A DAM is an example of a product family. - ARB will need to expound on this - it does not make sense, specially since a DAM is not in the product matrix.
        • The “Family” pull-down list of values includes things like v2, v3, CDA and FHIR, not categories of artifacts like DAMs. That’s why the statement in the canonical DAM confusing and inconsistent. It may be correct in the eyes of some, but it may seem confusing to others.
7. Other business and planning
   • Homework: Please review http://www.hl7.org/documentcenter/public/wg/orders/V3_DAM_Specimen_R2_INFORM_2017JAN_20170316.docx to see that it meets the DAM Canonical Definition requirements.
   • Open issues
8. Adjournment

Meeting Information

HL7 ARB Work Group Meeting Minutes Location: Telcon		Date: 20170321 Time: 4:00pm U.S. Eastern
Facilitator	Julian, Tony	Note taker(s)	Julian, Tony
Attendee	Name	Affiliation
X	Bond,Andy	NEHTA
X	Constable, Lorraine	Constable Consulting Inc.
X	Hyland, Mario	AEGIS
X	Julian, Tony	Mayo Clinic
X	Knapp, Paul	Pknapp Consulting
R	Kubick, Wayne	HL7 CTO
.	Loyd, Patrick	ICode Solutions
.	Lynch, Cecil	Accenture
.	Milosevic, Zoran	Deontik Pty Ltd
X	Stechishin,Andy	CANA Software and Service Ltd.
Guests
.	Nelson, Dale	Accenture
.	Grow, Richard	U.S. Department of Veterans affairs
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Legend
X	Present
.	Absent
R	Regrets
Quorum Requirements (Co-chair + 3) Met: Yes

Minutes

1. Management
   • Approval of Agenda and Minutes
     • Agenda and Minutes approved via general consent.
2. Methodology
   • TSC TASKs: At March 20, 2017 TSC, Wayne asked that we review the available product types as represented in the GOM, and define them. Specifically he was asking what is a Functional Model (since a Service Functional Model has been proposed as something different).
     1. Master Grid: Type is actually Product Type:
     2. Paul: pull out of the GOM, and add the missing Families
     3. Paul: Need the list outside of the GOM of Families and types.
     4. Paul: Permalink to family, subfamily, Type.
     5. Paul: Add to SGB precepts? Is the outcome worth the spend?
     6. Paul: What is the confusion? We have conceptual Families and implementable Families.
     7. Lorraine: Family should be Lines
     8. Paul: Class of specification, not the Family or Line.
     9. Lorraine: topic is coordination of care, ordering
     10. Paul: Go back to TSC - why a DAM is a family
         • Two classes - conceptual and implementable.
         • Lorraine: more than 2.
     11. Paul: We usually discuss implementable. We could add DAM or FM to the list.
     12. Tony: What is the target of the grid.
     13. Paul: To lookup e.g. the coordination of care
     14. AndyS: Not sure even insiders know how to use the Grid.
     15. Lorraine: Designed by ES and some co-chairs. Implemented by HQ. I use combinations: Work group or search.
     16. Andy B: You have to have knowledge of the family to search by family: The lines are defined by the domain of user
     17. Paul: Topic or purpose of use.
     18. Lorraine: comment ballot material is not published.
     19. Paul:Rationale - Don't end at comment.
     20. He also asked ARB to compare to the values for Type in the Standards Master Grid, which doesn’t match the GOM values at all.
     21. Canonical DAM
   • Line 190: A DAM is an example of a product family. - ARB will need to expound on this - it does not make sense, specially since a DAM is not in the product matrix.
   • The “Family” pull-down list of values includes things like v2, v3, CDA and FHIR, not categories of artifacts like DAMs. That’s why the statement in the canonical DAM confusing and inconsistent. It may be correct in the eyes of some, but it may seem confusing to others.
3. Other business and planning
   • Homework: Please review http://www.hl7.org/documentcenter/public/wg/orders/V3_DAM_Specimen_R2_INFORM_2017JAN_20170316.docx to see that it meets the DAM Canonical Definition requirements.
   • Open issues
4. Adjournment
   • Adjourned at 5:00pm U.S. Eastern.

Tony Julian (talk)