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2017-10-06 Learning Health Systems Call
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Facilitator | Russell Leftwich | Note taker(s) | Emma Jones |
Attendee | Name | Affiliation
| |
X | Russell Leftwich | InterSystems | |
John Roberts | Tennessee Department of Health | ||
X | Stephen Chu | Individual | |
X | Evelyn Gallego | ONC | |
Kathy Walsh | LabCorp | ||
X | Annette DeVito Dabbs | ||
Laura Heermann-Langford | Intermountain Healthcare | ||
X | Emma Jones | Allscripts | |
Jeff Brown | Cancerlinq | ||
X | Lisa Nelson | Individual | |
Dave Carlson | VA | ||
Chris Melo | Phillips Healthcare | ||
Michelle Miller | Cerner | ||
Benjamin Kummer | Columbia University | ||
Matt Rhan | |||
Michael Padula | |||
X | Joseph Quinn | ||
X | Thomson Kuhn | ||
Rob Hausum | |||
X | Evelyn Gallego | ONC | |
Serafina Versaggi | VA |
Minutes
- Chair: Russell Leftwich
- Scribe: Emma Jones
LHS Comment to ISA
- Request consideration for a new subsection representing Dynamic Care Team Management.
- Emma posted write up for folks to review prior to submitting to HL7 LHS ISA Comment is here. Please edit as needed
- Review comment over the next week
- LHS will vote next Friday
- Emma posted write up for folks to review prior to submitting to HL7 LHS ISA Comment is here. Please edit as needed
Care Managers - Roles, Responsibility and Credentials
- Discussion
- multiple certifying bodies with the same sertification
- Do any accredating organization certify the training? No - the graduates are expected to certifiy via exams or experience (years in the role, etc)
- Titles can be the same with varying degrees
- See table 3 of the presentation for exams and eligibility criterias
- Even with these variation there is little evidence that these roles are attributed to outcomes
- AAANurses - have attribute positive out comes if the role is an RN
- Some Social worker organizations have outcome data
- Some organizations use increase in behavioral health issues to designate a social worker trained in behavioral health as ther care manager
- All accrediting bodies are US based
- Certifying body by health system - next step is to contact health systems to assess their job requirements
- University of Pittsburg Medical System - roles are all over the map - e.g. acute seperate from the ambulatory, etc
- Difficult to determine what next steps with this data will be
- LHS interest in how to define some of these roles - as part of the governance of a care team. Trying to determine capability to be the lead in the planning role, etc
- It would be interesting to see a summary of the various credentials and credentialling organizations. Then a summary of real world job titles and what credentials the job titles called for.
- Findings so far - Wide variation, poorly defined, lack standizations
- Problems
- Unable to identify the differences
- Unable to attribute differences in coordinations with outcomesUnable to guide practices about best model for their practices
- Purpose:
- compare and contrast characteristics (titles, education, disciplines, experience, roles, responsibilities, competencies, certifying bodies)
- Provide a framework to examine differences and their impact.
- Were care managers from any payer organizations? Haven't looked at settings yet.
- AACM credentialing for RN only - but no overaching guidelines.
- No payer network endorsed a certain certification.
- Is there relationship between harmonizing certification?
- CCM - not associated with a particular organization but certified thousands.
- Re-imbursement driven? typically at the state level.
- AAN and Social work groups as well as other disciplines with certain level of expertise - have written white papers as to why they are the best fit.
- How does this relate to the LHS Care Team project?
- Related to the governance of the care team - who can create the plan, the arbitrar, first line contact with the patient and the process of coordination
- Study next step - to do contextual inquiries - whether using electronic care plans or not. How care managers interact with others on the care team.
- Summary: validates the concern that there is no standardization across there roles
- Starting the write-up for a manuscript.
- Our value set of care team members and functions - matches with the roles and credentials.
- This is useful for flushing their functions on the team and the role they play on the team. Second attribute is qualification.
- Job title does not align with these concepts.
- Many people filling these roles feel that social workers are more aligned to do a lot of the care coordination tasks.