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2017-04-20 CIMI Telecom Minutes
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- 2017 Minutes: http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=CIMI_Minutes
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Minutes (Annotated Agenda)
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- Bolded Items were discussed/annotated to the agenda
- Record this call
- Agenda review
- Review and approval of minutes
- http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=CIMI_Minutes#CIMI_Minutes
- Motion to approve: Richard, 2nd Jay: Unanimous
- PSS from EHR WG – Podiatry profile – Michael Brody
- http://files.constantcontact.com/d9114c54201/9b142b9a-252f-41b5-8648-21b25a62794a.docx?ver=1490797055000
- CIMI to co-sponsor PSS: Moved by Galen, 2nd Richard: Unanimous
- Submission for SNOMED CT Expo 2017
- Submissions Close Friday 5th May 2017 (21:00 UTC)
- SNOMED CT Expo, 19 - 20 October 2017, Bratislava, Slovak Republic
- More about submissions: http://www.snomedexpo.org/call-for-papers
- Who can attend? Who wants to participate? Topics?
- Possible topics
- Finding versus observable styles – Jay
- Approach to topics and context -
- Alignment with the SNOMED CT concept model
- Collaboration among CIMI, FHIR, SNOMED CT
- CIMI’s use of SOLOR
- Probable attendees – Richard, Rob Hausam, Linda
- Lead – Richard; Participants: Rob, (Susan), Stan
- Possible topics
- Brief updates on active projects (standing item)
- Skin and wound assessments – Jay and Susan
- FHIM – CIMI integration – Galen
- Refactoring of FHIM is moving forward “apace”
- Alignment with FHIR condition resource
- Alignment with “concerns”
- I will put this on the agenda for next week
- Conversion of CIMI archetypes to FHIR logical models to FHIR profiles – Claude
- FHIR resource profile from FHIR logical profiles – Claude and Richard are collaborating
- Tools to model things that get represented in BMM - Claude
- Creating ADL models from CEMs – Joey
- LOKI – Patrick Langford
- CIMI Website – Patrick Langford
- Tool that takes the BMM patterns and produces FHIR profiles [Richard, Michael van der Zel]
- MDMI tools – Steve and Richard to follow up
- Help to create documentation tool that reads a model and generates wiki pages (a document generation tool) [Claude, Michael van der Zel]
- Review Argonauts profiles and FHIM classes for vital signs – Susan, Galen, All
- CIMI model review for FHIR team - Stan
- FHIR folks are interested, Stan could not arrange a time before Madrid
- Will plan to schedule a time for a seminar during our joint meeting with FHIR in Madrid
- Agenda planning for the Madrid WGM - Galen
- People to send joint meeting topics and other agenda items to Galen. We will review next week.
- Joey’s question about multiple inheritance
- Multi inheritance – BaseClinicalStatement, IndividualClinicalStatement, CompundClinicalStatement
- Outreach to other Working Groups at the Madrid meeting
- Conceptual models – Domain experts (WGs) with CIMI help
- Start with PC, Pharmacy?
- Logical models – CIMI with Domain expert (WGs) help
- FHIR resources and profiles – CIMI and FHIR
- Short presentation that we can share with all WGs – Claude to make a first draft presentation
- Get on the co-chair meeting agenda – Stan
- Send out CIIC meeting information - Stan
- Conceptual models – Domain experts (WGs) with CIMI help
- Review of CIMI lab models – Stan, Joey, Patrick
- http://models.opencimi.org
- Review/approve strategy, the regenerate models (if needed) using latest core models
- Topics
- Describe the process that got us to the current set of models
- Spreadsheet with long, short, and
- Plans for the next version (continue next week)
- We confirmed that the post coordinated style is the CIMI preferred style
- Update the models to use the current core, reference models, and patterns
- Need to make the archetypes of lab observations for quantitative, coded, ordinal,
- We need user friendly names (phase 1)
- Retain current file names
- Add a column for “human edited pretty name”
- Add a column for context 2000 Intermountain names
- In display in the browser, use the “human edited pretty name” if it exists, and use the short LOINC name otherwise
- Value sets:
- Need to have standard terminology codes visible in browser
- UCUM, LOINC, SNOMED CT
- Synonyms for the models (blood sugar)
- Others?
- Review core models and archetypes and any proposed changes – Claude, Galen
- Review of updated assertion/evaluation table content – Stan
- Pending – models need to be updated to the reference models and submitted in the ballot
- Graph/STAMP modeling paradigm – Richard
- We will do this every other week in place of the “Patterns” meeting
- People can review and edit the existing description and requirements at:
- Planned work for September ballot
- Models for lab data and regeneration of leaf node models (Stan, Patrick, Susan)
- Work needs to be done to improve the quality
- Start with highest volume and most used data elements
- Use the SNOMED description logic maps that were generated as part of the SNOMED – LOINC agreement
- Use of the “invariant” anchor patterns, Grahame’s “dictionaries”, abilities to do transformations of instance data
- Claude – hierarchy of types: lab, quantitative lab, detailed clinical models
- Process for scaling concept creation, distribution, refsets, STAMP versioning, implications of versioning and model dependencies for concepts that are referenced in CIMI models – Susan Matney
- Clarification of binding – static versus dynamic binding, and related issues, allows conformance testing, binding in abstract types – Rob McClure
- Further flesh out core reference models – Claude
- Allergies/Intolerance/Adverse events
- Action
- Event
- Medications: order, administration, dispense (FHIM)
- Devices
- Subtyping of results for radiology and imaging
- Care plans
- Harmonizing with QDM, FHIM, FHIR, CQI, VMR
- Tooling
- Generation of FHIR profiles from CIMI models
- Model authoring tools
- Strategy for testing of models
- Models for lab data and regeneration of leaf node models (Stan, Patrick, Susan)
- Any other business
- Future topics
- Loading of concepts into SOLOR – Susan Matney
- The SOLOR Conundrum – Steve Hufnagel
- Review CIMI Observation Result pattern - Stan
- How will CIMI coordinate with DAF? - Claude
- Granularity of models (schematic anchors) – from Richard
- We need a way to identify the focal concept in indivisible and group statements
- We would probably use the new metadata element
- New principle: Don’t include static knowledge such as terminology classifications in the model: class of drug, invasiveness of procedure, etc.
- Proposed policy that clusters are created in their own file – Joey, Stan
- The role of openEHR-like templating in CIMI’s processes - Stan
- IHTSDO work for binding SNOMED CT to FHIR resources – Linda, Harold
- Which openEHR archetypes should we consider converting to CIMI models?
- Transform of ICD-10 CM to CIMI models – Richard
- Others?