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20140205 FMG concall

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HL7 TSC FMG Meeting Minutes

Location: call 770-657-9270 using code 985371#

Date: 2014-02-05
Time: 1:00 PM U.S. Eastern
Chair: Lloyd Note taker(s): Lynn
Quorum = chair + 4 yes/no
Co chairs x Hugh Glover x Lloyd McKenzie
ex-officio Ron Parker, FGB Chair . John Quinn, CTO
Members Members Members Observers/Guests
x Lorraine Constable x Paul Knapp x John Moehrke x Lynn Laakso, scribe
regrets David Hay x Josh Mandel regrets Brian Pech Austin Kreisler



Convened at 1:06

  • Agenda Check - Paul sent a document on governance recommendations for publishing; postpone Profile Tool demo; Hugh asks if we need to address the forking discussion on the chat. Hugh moves approval of amended agenda; second by John; unanimously approved.
  • Minutes from 20140129_FMG_concall Hugh moves approval, second by John, unanimously approved.
  • Administrative
    • Action items
      • Hugh will see proposals for profiles reviewed by FMG Published as part of standard or as separate document - review Category:FHIR_Resource_Proposal and how should the visibility of the FHIR process descriptions be called out. Paul suggests links from the FHIR main page. He added a profile proposal template and will come up under resource proposal categories. Lloyd suggests you refer to them all as FHIR proposals both resource and profile. The HL7 International ballot candidates go here but we'll need a place for the rest.
        • Profiles can be done on both resources and data types notes Lloyd. This could lead to a profile on a resource and multiple profiles on datatypes used in that resource. Profile for "money" as a constraint on quantity, for example. One profile adds an extension for county into "address" for US purposes. Need to have an indicator if it's meant to be balloted and published with the main FHIR specification or elsewhere. Further discussion ensued.
        • Naming is also a consideration and formal naming extensions with large numbers of profiles. Realm is another consideration. Does core need to be UV realm only? DCMs will become profiles, IGs for CDA, every realm specific implementation. This is met with resistance. Lloyd describes a best practices profile on data collection for a particular diagnosis. However the majority of them will not be balloted/published by HL7. Interoperability will depend on whether your system can interpret the data from the profile used by the sending system; receiver will see a resource, but not necessarily be able to use all the data in an interoperable fashion.
        • Profiles have three levels of recognition: self-registration (publishing) to repository for discoverability; second level is storage in and retrieval from HL7-managed repository. Third level is betting and stamp of approval by a WG aligned with principles, etc.
        • Review again next week.
  • Policy and Governance Recommendations for Publishing, Tooling and Electronic Services Support for FHIR - this is a result of Brian Lorraine and Paul's action item.
    • draft recommendations for FGB in defining governance precepts. Lloyd requests delineation of responsibilities for the different bodies.
    • Lorraine adds that TSC had comments on the request for publication and reminds the FMG that publication requests are typically submitted once all the edits are completed. Exceptions to this process can be requested.

Being at time, adjourned 2:00 PM

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