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Minutes of the 2014 January WGM in SanAntonio, TX, US

Meeting Information

HL7 ArB Work Group Meeting Minutes

Location: San Atonio, TX, US

Date: 20140119
Time: Q1
Facilitator Julian, Tony Note taker(s) Julian, Tony
Attendee Name Affiliation
R Bond,Andy NEHTA
X Constable, Lorraine Constable Consulting Inc.
R Curry, Jane Health Information Strategies
R Dagnall, Bo HP Enterprise Services
X Hufnagel, Steve U.S. Department of Defense, Military Health System
X Julian, Tony Mayo Clinic
X Loyd, Patrick ICode Solutions
X Lynch, Cecil Accenture
R Milosevic, Zoran Deontik Pty Ltd
X Parker, Ron CA Infoway
. Quinn, John Health Level Seven, Inc.
. Stechishin,Andy CANA Software and Service Ltd.
. Guests
X Jeff Brown
.
. Legend
X Present
. Absent
R Regrets
Quorum Requirements (Co-chair + 3) Met: Yes

Sunday Q1

  1. Bam status and Issues:
  2. BAM issues were discussed including the following
    1. Chapter 6 Precepts - Not done
    2. Chapter 7 - in progress
      1. Customers who want to know how to consume specs, or buy products that use the spec want to know what it does.
      2. Need a canonical model for the organization. Cecil suggests common logic standard
  3. Adjourned at 10:30 am U.S. Central

Meeting Information

HL7 ArB Work Group Meeting Minutes

Location: San Atonio, TX, US

Date: 20140119
Q2
Facilitator Julian, Tony Note taker(s) Julian, Tony
Attendee Name Affiliation
R Bond,Andy NEHTA
X Constable, Lorraine Constable Consulting Inc.
R Curry, Jane Health Information Strategies
R Dagnall, Bo HP Enterprise Services
X Hufnagel, Steve U.S. Department of Defense, Military Health System
X Julian, Tony Mayo Clinic
X Loyd, Patrick ICode Solutions
X Lynch, Cecil Accenture
R Milosevic, Zoran Deontik Pty Ltd
X Parker, Ron CA Infoway
X Quinn, John Health Level Seven, Inc.
. Stechishin,Andy CANA Software and Service Ltd.
. Guests
X McCaslin, Ken HL7 TSC Chair
X Brown, Jeff
.
. Legend
X Present
. Absent
R Regrets
Quorum Requirements (Co-chair + 3) Met: Yes

Sunday Q2

  1. Discussion was held of the next steps for ArB.
    • The capture of the current work of the SAIF Architec
      • Ron: "'FHIR' has consumed all of the oxygen in the
      • FMG should verify the correct usage of DSTU.
    • How does the organization handle "bad" behavior in r
      • Especially when the drivers are often those who are
    • Need to clarify the responsibilities of co-chair.
    • Will need to support PIC in operationalization of th
    • KEN: we need to put the "Review" back in ArB.
    • Arb should describe the "Review" process in the BAM.
  2. Adjourned at 12:30 pm U.S. Central

Meeting Information

HL7 ArB Work Group Meeting Minutes

Location: San Atonio, TX, US

Date: 20140119
Q3
Facilitator Julian, Tony Note taker(s) Julian, Tony
Attendee Name Affiliation
R Bond,Andy NEHTA
X Constable, Lorraine Constable Consulting Inc.
R Curry, Jane Health Information Strategies
R Dagnall, Bo HP Enterprise Services
X Hufnagel, Steve U.S. Department of Defense, Military Health System
X Julian, Tony Mayo Clinic
X Loyd, Patrick ICode Solutions
X Lynch, Cecil Accenture
R Milosevic, Zoran Deontik Pty Ltd
X Parker, Ron CA Infoway
. Quinn, John Health Level Seven, Inc.
. Stechishin,Andy CANA Software and Service Ltd.
. Guests
. McCaslin, Ken HL7 TSC Chair
X Brown, Jeff
.
. Legend
X Present
. Absent
R Regrets
Quorum Requirements (Co-chair + 3) Met: Yes

Sunday Q3

  1. Glossary
  2. Steve, Ron, Lorraine, Cecil, Jeff Brown, Andy Stechisin, Tony
  3. Could encode SAIF concepts, and encode in the tool.
    • to use protege properly, you need to:
      • import dublin-core to protege.
      • Download annotation search plugin in order to search for text within an annotation.
  4. Anybody feel the need to link the classes?
    • Not today.
  5. MOTION: To extend SAIF-CD DSTU, which expires on May 17, 2014 for one year.(Andy S,Lorraine).
  6. 1. To provide opportunity for SAIF AP to provide feedback
  7. 2. To provide opportunity to apply the 'lens of the saif' to the BAM.
  8. VOTE: 5-0-0
  9. Andy s suggested distributing after Tony's QA, and split several ways, for oversight.
  10. Adjourned at 3:00pm U.S. Central

Sunday Q4

  1. Prep for TSC
    • done during q3.

Tuesday Q3:

  1. Tony Mallia from Edmond Scientific presented interoperability conclusions from work for the VA.
  2. fhir profile schema presentation
  3. Adjourned at 3:00pm U.S. Central

Meeting Information

HL7 ArB Work Group Meeting Minutes

Location: San Atonio, TX, US

Date: 20140121
Q3
Facilitator Julian, Tony Note taker(s) Julian, Tony
Attendee Name Affiliation
R Bond,Andy NEHTA
X Constable, Lorraine Constable Consulting Inc.
R Curry, Jane Health Information Strategies
R Dagnall, Bo HP Enterprise Services
. Hufnagel, Steve U.S. Department of Defense, Military Health System
X Julian, Tony Mayo Clinic
. Loyd, Patrick ICode Solutions
X Lynch, Cecil Accenture
R Milosevic, Zoran Deontik Pty Ltd
X Parker, Ron CA Infoway
. Quinn, John Health Level Seven, Inc.
. Stechishin,Andy CANA Software and Service Ltd.
. Guests
. McCaslin, Ken HL7 TSC Chair
X Tony Mallia
.
. Legend
X Present
. Absent
R Regrets
Quorum Requirements (Co-chair + 3) Met: Yes

Thursday Q3

Joint with CDS and CQI:

  1. Methodology
    • Aziz Boxwala: We would like to request time with the US Realm Taskforce and the ArB to discuss the next phase of QIDAM and how it evolves into logical model and/or maps to other existing specifications. I have copied some of the interested parties to this email including one of the co-chairs each of CQI and CDS who have interest in this work.
      • Physical models and Logical model were mapped to SAIF-CD ISM.
      • Planning on FHIR profile - looks like a class diagram - map to Physical space in ISM. profile will provide constraint as well as extension.
      • Plan on having logical, physical and IG done in September 2014.
      • Question - where should we go?
      • Foundational model to a final expression IG.
    • Followup on vMR Logical Model ballot
      • CDS will launch project to investigate the options, make a decision, and implement.
      • HIMSS is defining interoperability
  2. Adjourned at 3:00pm U.S. Central

Thursday Q4

  1. Next cycle - May 4 - May 9, 2014 in Phoenix, AZ
    • Tony will ping all members for attendance in Phoenix.
    • Schedule Sunday Q1, Q2, Q3 , q4 (book q4, but not mandatory)
    • Dont schedule tuesday.
    • Thursday q3,q4
  2. Next Face-to-face
    • Build a schedule on Sunday of who is doing what where with report back thur:q3.
    • How do issues get raised?
    • We need to do the review on the requesters meeting slot, not ours.
    • What needs to be reviewed?(CTO, TSC Chair)
    • Where are the governance rules?
    • Who defines/defined them?
    • How is the review triggered?
    • How/where is the governance expressed?
    • How/where are the decisions expressed?
    • Transparancy of process?
  3. DAM Definition
    • The DAM definition has not been formalized by TSC. Get the TSC to approve, or dont ask us to review dams since we dont have a definition.
    • send a note to lynn, copy Ken and John Q.
    • Notify ArB as to why no decision was made.
  4. Adjournment at 5:00pm U.S. Central

Meeting Information

HL7 ArB Work Group Meeting Minutes

Location: Telcon

Date: YYYYMMDD
Time: 5:00pm U.S. Eastern
Facilitator Julian, Tony/Constable, Lorraine Note taker(s) Julian, Tony//Constable, Lorraine
Attendee Name Affiliation
. Bond,Andy NEHTA
. Constable, Lorraine Constable Consulting Inc.
. Curry, Jane Health Information Strategies
. Dagnall, Bo HP Enterprise Services
. Hufnagel, Steve U.S. Department of Defense, Military Health System
. Julian, Tony Mayo Clinic
. Loyd, Patrick ICode Solutions
. Lynch, Cecil Accenture
. Milosevic, Zoran Deontik Pty Ltd
. Parker, Ron CA Infoway
. Quinn, John Health Level Seven, Inc.
. Stechishin,Andy CANA Software and Service Ltd.
. Guests
. Kreisler, Austin HL7 TSC Chair
. Luthra, Anil NCI
. Pech, Brian Kaiser Permanente
. Shakir, Abdul Malik City of Hope National Medical Center
. Laakso, Lynn HL7
.
. Legend
X Present
. Absent
R Regrets
Quorum Requirements (Co-chair + 3) Met: Yes