2014-02-17 PA Call Minutes

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Patient Administration Call

Meeting Information

PA Work Group Meeting

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Date: Monday

February 17, 2014
Time: 12:00 PM (US Pacific Time, GMT -7)
Quorum Met (Chair+2, Yes/No)? Yes

Facilitator Alex de Leon Scribe Alex de Leon
Attendee Name Affiliation
X Irma Jongeneel HL7 The Netherlands
X Line Saele HL7 Norway
X Alex de Leon Kaiser Permanente, USA
X Brian Prostlethwait Data.com, Australia
X Iryna Roy Gordon Pointe Informatics
X Alexander Henket HL7 The Netherlands
X Alexander de Leon Kaiser Permanente


Agenda Topics

  1. Patient Administration Current Ballot Materials Status
  2. Review FHIR Scheduling Resources.

Supporting Documents


Minutes/Conclusions Reached:
Ballot Materials – The WG continued with the review of the ballot materials to be published:

  • Encounter – The final balloter will need to withdraw the final negative – EPIC, which is awaiting the resolution of membership status. Action: Once done request for publication needs to be made by Alex de Leon.
  • Scheduling - NIB has been submitted.
  • Personnel Management - Action: Request for publication needs to be made by Alex de Leon. 02/18/14.

Questions were asked about the publication dates. Publication seems to be 12 months after balloting. However, the WG will continue to work toward getting the publication done ASAP so as not to incur further ANSI rancor.

Action items along with responsible person and timeline will be put into one localized document for ease of use of the WG.

FHIR Scheduling Resource
The WG continued with the discussion regarding the Appointment resource. Last telecom, the WG was specifically focused on hospital style scheduling processes. Currently, there is an appointment resource and a appointment response resource, but it seems that the hospital style schedlunig process may need a separate appointment request resource along with a response distinct from the appointment which might represent the instance of the appointment.
After discussing it, it became clear that there are 2 distinct workflows: a hospital workflow and “outlook style” or community workflow which seems to be covered by the current modeling of the appointment resource. Brian will confer with Ewout and/or the other FHIR leadership as to whether the WG should cover both at this time or cover one before the other.
The WG continued with the terminiology bindings. APpintment Reason was one that was discussed. For this, it can be either clinical reason or it can be an administrative code describing the type (as seems to be for v2). Perhaps there should be a reason attribute for the clinical and a separate appointment type for the add an appointment type attribute above the reason attribute with a definition similar to the slot type.
Availability / slot resource
Next Steps:
Adjourned: 1:10 PM PST.

Meeting Outcomes

Next Meeting/Preliminary Agenda Items
  • Next telecom meeting: 02-24-2014


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