2013-03-04 PA Call Minutes

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Patient Administration Call

Meeting Information

FHIR Work Meeting

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Date: Monday

March 04, 2013
Time: 12:00 PM (US Pacific Time, GMT -7)

Facilitator Alex de Leon Note taker Alex de Leon
Attendee Name Affiliation
X Brian Pech Kaiser Permanente, USA
X Wendy Huang Canada Health Infoway, Canada
X Iryna Roy Gordon Point Informatics, Canada
X Brad Fonseca Canada Health Infoway, Canada
X Ewout Kramer Furore, Netherlands
X Hugh Glover FHIR Management Team
X Alexander Henket HL7 Netherlands
X Irma Jongeneel NICTIZ, Netherlands
X Alex de Leon Kaiser Permanente, USA


Agenda Topics

  1. FHIR Management Group (FMG) Tracking Sheet
  2. Harmonization Proposal

Supporting Documents


Minutes/Conclusions Reached:

The WG immediately began with the tracking spreadsheet due to Hugh’s conflict with another meeting, meaning he could only stay for a short time to review this work. He explained that this is a sheet that the FMG put together to help guide and receive feedback on the resource development for FHIR.
The WG reviewed the 5 resourced listed in the spreadsheet:

  • Provider
  • Encounter
  • Location
  • Organization
  • Patient

The worksheet is intended to communicate status on various resource development milestones such as "Name", "Definition", "Scope", "Content Sources", etc. Some of the column headings for the milestones were not as intuitive such as "invariants" so Hugh was asked to have the FMG explain and provide comments for each of the column headings. He said he would take that back to the group. At that point, Hugh had to leave, but the WG continued the discussion.

The discussion at this point centered on the work to be done to support these 5 resources. Currently, the WG has a reconciliation spreadsheet from resources that were circulated during the last voting cycle. Some of these have already been addressed, but there are still some that have yet to be discussed. Alex d. pointed out that it appears that 4 of the 5 have already have significantly met the milestones set for March 1 ("Name", "Definition", "Scope", "Content Sources"), with the exception of the encounter resource.

Irma then asked whether the commitment implied on the worksheet include both the development of the 5 resources along with the updates based on ballot comment reconciliation and notes taken during telecom calls. Ewout agreed that this was a good point. After discussing it, the WG agreed that it would be more manageable to focus on the development of the resources rather than do both. So, we will continue with the development work and continue collecting the comments and notes for updates at a later time. We will need to communicate this out to the general PA WG community. The WG also agreed that we should advise Hugh and see if he has feedback to provide.

Alex will let Hugh know of the proposed direction of the work.
Alex will send a message to the listserve, after advising Hugh so that the PA community will know our direction and that the next meeting agenda item (for 3/11) will be the development of the Encounter resource.

Before the call ended, Irma referenced the email from Lynn Laakso having to do with the Personnel R1 and Scheduling R1 reacing their fiver year anniversary for reaffirmation. Since it seems that Line might have done some work on this, Alex suggested that we handle this offline with Line and Irma. That was the direction that will be taken.

Adjourned: 1:05 PM PST.

Meeting Outcomes

• Alex de Leon to send an email to Hugh Glover advising of our work direction for FHIR and soliciting feedback. .
• Alex de Leon to send an email to the PAWG list serve letting them know of our direction and advising that all comments are appreciated and will continue to be collected and aggregated with those from the next ballot cycle .

Next Meeting/Preliminary Agenda Items
  • Next telecom meeting Monday, March 11, 2013


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