20120501 SAIF AP ConCall

SAIF Architecture Program – 2012-05-01 Meeting

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Meeting Logistics

• Dates: Bi-Weekly on Tuesdays
• Time: 12:00 - 13:00 Eastern
• Phone Number: +1 (770) 657 9270
• Participant Passcode: 985371
• Web Coordinates: https://www2.gotomeeting.com/join/768017802 Meeting ID: 768-017-802

Agenda

1. Roll Call
2. Agenda Review
3. Discuss Patrick's list of ideas for creating resolving the MnM work/resources issue, include a scope, outstanding tasks, budget and plan.
4. Have Lorraine/Patrick show OO's work to date with the development of SAIF artifacts (Lorraine Constable/Patrick Loyd)
6. Recurring Agenda Items
   1. Pilot Coordination updates (Rick Haddorff)
      1. Any new Coordination items? (Team)
      2. Project Schedule progress (Rick Haddorff)
7. Action item review (see below)
8. Next steps

Action Items to Review

• Owner:
  • ID # and Description
    • Any update or other question?

Link to the Complete List of Action Items/Issues/Risks (GForge)

Meeting Attendees

X=Present on Call

Facilitator	Austin Kreisler	Note taker(s)	Lynn Laakso
Attendee	Name	Affiliation
X	Austin Kreisler	TSC Chair
regrets	David Hamill	HL7 HQ / Program Manager
	Jane Curry	Tooling
	John Moehrke	Security Cookbook
	John Quinn	HL7 CTO
	Lloyd McKenzie	MnM Work Group / SAIF Implementation Guide Pjt
X	Lorraine Constable	Composite Order Pjt / OO Behavioral Framework Pjt
x	Patrick Loyd	OO Work Group / Composite Order Pjt
X	Rick Haddorff	Project Services WG / SAIF Pilot Coordination Pjt
	Pat Van Dyke	EHR WG
	Steve Hufnagel	ArB / SAIF Book Project / SOA
	Wendy Huang	Implementation Conformance WG
	Freida Hall	Project Services WG
	Alean Kirnak	Immunization IG Project
	Ioana Singureanu	Project Services WG
x	Lynn Laakso	HQ Staff Support
Quorum Requirements Met: Yes

Minutes

1. Agenda Review; Austin adds discussion of FHIR and SAIF. FHIR governance discussion at 4 PM MnM call tomorrow 2012/05/02. Question burning is, is it time to bring FHIR in under SAIF AP? It seems it now is time.
2. Discuss Patrick's list of ideas for creating resolving the MnM work/resources issue, include a scope, outstanding tasks, budget and plan.
   • Patrick reviews SAIF IG proposal
     • Rough points, numbers for reaching deliverables.
     • Lorraine displays from SAIF Canonical 1.1.4.5 Inter-relationships among the SAIF CD languages. Discussion ensued on inclusion of governance framework.
     • Patrick suggests to augment the proposal to break into phases, SAIF IG needs governance. Breaking into phases can accelerate development of the pieces for different audiences, one piece would be governance. It can remain in scope that way. The GF IG needs to surface a number of implicit governance processes that are already in place.
     • Needs to be on the agenda in Vancouver. There will be an additional discussion with MnM also during the week Tuesday Q1. Austin noted that Grahame expects FHIR governance to come straight out of the TSC and Austin feels that needs to some from the SAIF AP.
     • Patrick encourages input on the wiki page. Austin noted that initial review of potential budgeting with HQ executives it appeared commensurate with the amount of work they expect. However actually budgeting that figure will require consideration from the financial perspective. It's important to bring Grahame and Lloyd back into the work, at a minimum to review SAIF as applied to FHIR.
     • Austin notes that we may get more bang for the buck to "bake in" the methodology of SAIF IG into FHIR than in retrofitting it back into V3 development processes.
3. Have Lorraine/Patrick show OO's work to date with the development of SAIF artifacts (Lorraine Constable/Patrick Loyd)
   • Lab Order Template wiki page has ToDos and Open Issues showing current work. There is a link to Laboratory Order Conceptual Specification page where the work is being recorded. There are still a number of changes anticipated before the WGM.
   • There is a similar thing for Composite Order but not nearly as filled out, they're really working on Lab and fleshing out the ideas appropriate for the larger Composite order. Mostly in document form, but there are pieces and parts in EA. Lorraine adds that the documents hold BF information from HSSP templates. Diagrams on wiki today are a bit out of date and have been updated more recently. They've reached a point where SAIF IG need is recognized. Question for OO in terms of resources is how to balance those priorities. Need to make the declarations of the assumptions needed to move from the conceptual to the informational levels. Form(at) of declarations needs to be determined. They are working through the experimental mode of developing these declarations but it slows them down. They may have conceptual level artifacts ready for the next ballot at comment level though the recent ArB definition of completeness may not be met.
   • Austin asks if they've learned whether the BF has assisted the development. Patrick notes that they are just reaching the point where binding of constraints to information flows becomes necessary. These conformance statements are expected to allow us to get past problems faced previously. Contract statements (rather than services or messages) have no differences in profiling for conformance statements, and a functional profile is where conformance is asserted. That is the point in the process where they are at right now.
4. Recurring Agenda Items
   1. Pilot Coordination updates (Rick Haddorff)
      1. Any new Coordination items? (Team)
      2. Project Schedule progress (Rick Haddorff)
5. Action item review (see below)
6. Next steps - please attend the MnM call tomorrow.

Adjourned 12:49 PM Eastern Time

New Action Items

None identified