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SAIF Architecture Program – 2012-02-21 Meeting

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Meeting Logistics


  1. Role Call
  2. Agenda Review
  3. Include Project 831 - EHR-S FM Profiling tool under the SAIF AP Umbrella
  4. Setting our agenda for this trimester
  5. Project Status Updates
  6. Recurring Agenda Items
    1. Pilot Coordination updates (Rick Haddorff)
      1. Any new Coordination items? (Team)
      2. Project Schedule progress (Rick Haddorff)
  7. Action item review (see below)
  8. Next steps

Action Items to Review

  • Owner:
    • ID # and Description
      • Any update or other question?

Link to the Complete List of Action Items/Issues/Risks (GForge)

Meeting Attendees

X=Present on Call

Facilitator Austin Kreisler Note taker(s) David Hamill
Attendee Name Affiliation
X Austin Kreisler TSC Chair
X David Hamill HL7 HQ / Program Manager
X Jane Curry Tooling
John Moehrke Security Cookbook
John Quinn HL7 CTO
Lloyd McKenzie MnM Work Group / SAIF Implementation Guide Pjt
Lorraine Constable Composite Order Pjt \ OO Behavioral Framework Pjt
Patrick Loyd OO Work Group / Composite Order Pjt
X Rick Haddorff Project Services WG / SAIF Pilot Coordination Pjt
Pat Van Dyke EHR WG
X Steve Hufnagel ArB / SAIF Book Project / SOA
Wendy Huang Implementation Conformance WG
Freida Hall Project Services WG
Alean Kirnak Immunization IG Project
Ioana Singureanu Project Services WG
Quorum Requirements Met: Yes


Include Project 831 - EHR-S FM Profiling tool under the SAIF AP Umbrella

  • Steve, Patrick: Do not think it needs to go in under the umbrella.
  • Patrick: Understand the need for discussion by this group.
  • Austin: There is a relationship between the Artifact Definition and this project, but it's not really a dependancy. Has the most impact on the Artifact Definition, and this tool may be a candidate to assist that project, but doesn't need to be brought in under the SAIF AP. There is a relationship between the Artifact Definition and this project.

Setting our agenda for this trimester

  • Rick: Is there a need to pursue Grahame Grieve's FHIR project and it's relationship to SAIF AP?
  • Austin: Grahame is analyzing what SAIF will look like with FHIR, and once he is done with that, the SAIF AP team should review his work.
  • Austin: Believes that at some point FHIR should be brought in under the SAIF AP umbrella.
  • Jane: Focus on governance and framework, even if only from an abstract point of view.
  • Austin: Continue to examine governance and how to integrate that into the SAIF IG. Look at other governance that's already in place (e.g. RIM Harmonization), and here's the governance process you are using (validates the behavior that we want to continue), then discern what risks those processes are trying to address. We are not trying to impose new governance processes. We will probably identify multiple processes that do the same thing. A difficult thing about the GOM is there isn't a framework
  • Next Step: Conduct a brainstorming session to identify governance processes that are already in place. Perhaps create a Wiki page to allow people to enter their items.

Pilot Coordination updates (Rick Haddorff)

  • Rick - Upload the CMAP diagrams to GForge
  • First diagram: CMAP of SAIF CD
  • 2nd Diagram: Reflects a deeper dive of OO Composite Order work and where their work fits into the process. Rick is working with Patrick to validate the OO Composite Order CMAP diagram.
  • Next Step: Work with Steve Hufnagel and EHR to create CMAP for EHR SAIF work.

Project Status Updates

  • CDA R3 (Kreisler) - Continuing to work at implementing various decisions that were part of their task tracker spreadsheet that contains changes needed for R3. Determining what modeling changes stem from those items as well. Hoping they may have something ready for the Sept 2012 Ballot Cycle.
  • EHR Functional Information Model (Hufnagel) - Have been experimenting with ways to present information. Working on a prototype using Manage Immunization Administration, which brought out quite a few alternatives in modeling.

Adjourned 13:07 PM Eastern Time

New Action Items

Rick - upload CMAP diagrams onto SAIF AP Docs in GForge
Steve - Email Dave the EHR FIM slides ; Dave to include them in the minutes