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2012-10 Out of Cycle Meeting - Paris
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Pre OOC Action Items
Action: schedule work on teleconferences in advance of OOC meeting (Melva) - COMPLETE Action: Invite Marco to upcoming call to review IHE paper (Tom) Action: Work group members to review IHE paper and Stephen's paper - email sent to list with link - Sept 14, 2012 - COMPLETE Action: post White Paper and Stephen's presentation and link to our Wiki page - email sent to list with link - Sept 14, 2012 - COMPLETE
Day 1 - Joint with IHE Pharmacy
- Introductions
- Attendees
- IHE
- Juergen Brandstaetter
- Jacqueline Surugue
- Michael Tan
- Marc Robberecht
- Eric Poiseau
- Leonidas Tzimis
- Simon Letellier
- Jose Costa Teixeira
- Stephen Chu
- HL7
- Tom de Jong
- Melva Peters
- Jean Duteau
- Nicolas Canu
- Hugh Glover
- Julie James
- IHE
- Review agenda
- Strategies for increasing adoption and deployment of both IHE and HL7*
- Tom presents the layers of interoperability
- TRANSPORT
- XDS, AORTA, ...
- TRANSPORT
- PACKAGING
- Messages, CDA
- CONTENT
- Data model, Terminology
- CONCEPTS (hard to standardize by HL7 or IHE)
- Semantics, Glossary
- Action Items:
- Tom presents the layers of interoperability
New Joint work-item: "Standardized content"- Agree on a common data model for e.g. Prescription and subsequently decide if to change/enhance profiles - Jürgen, Tom
- Medication Profile
- Review of Stephen's presentation
- Terms have to harmonized in a glossary in context of their usage
- Glossary will be done during shaping the definitions
- Use-cases shall be created and shall come from a wide community
- Parallel to the work on the hierarchy/definitions a second work-item will be worked our bottom-up and which describes data-sources and the according nature of the data as well as related aspects necessary to provide the data needed by the other work-item
- The term "reconsiliation" has two meanings:
- 1) Matching data with reality (e.g. by asking the patient) = MEDICATION RECONCILATION
- 2) Finding the right future medication by considering the past medication and clinical situation of the patient = MEDICATION REVISION
- Review of Stephen's presentation
Stephen will consolidate the slide deck and combines the terms in the hierarchy with the definitions formerly sent. Will send to both groups when done (within 2 weeks)
Jacqueline, Stephen, Melva, Leonidas will provide use-cases, Michael reviews - Will determine if Teleconference is needed before use cases are created
Jose takes the lead of the second work-item. Approved that work on this work-item may start immediately.
- Pharmacy CDA Mapping Project
- Introduction of project
- Primary goal: Mapping of HL7 Pharmacy Message Types information elements to suitable CDA R2 information elements
- Second goal: Stylesheet for automatic generation
- Interest in following or participating?
- Collaborative work implicitly given by work-item "Standardized content" and following work-items
- Extend CDA Schema (for IHE Pharmacy) will be provided to Tom and Michael
- Suggested tool for mapping: Altova MapForce (or similar)
- Introduction of project
Michael will check if NICTIZ could provided resources for doing the mapping
- Status of Glossary Project
- Marco and Derrek Evans have worked on it
- No information about the current status
- Expected end of the work-item can not be estimated because work on it is on hold at the moment
- Discussion of use of SKMT - should be used as a source of terms and definitions, but not necessarily as a tool to capture glossary at this point.
- ISO plans a new work item "Drug dictionary" - what is our standpoint?
- A small group will prepare a proposal for the "Requirements of a drug dictionary"
- Not clear if an international or national drug dictionary?
- it was decided that we would wait for the proposal to be published
- A small group will prepare a proposal for the "Requirements of a drug dictionary"
- Automation Document (France)
- Frank Gener sends PHAST document: "The Functional Interoperability Framework for Automated Systems Integration in Electronic Medication Management Processes"
- Document has been put on Wiki page and on SVN for future reference
- Next meetings
- IHE
- F2F meeting in March 18-19, 2013 at Arsenal-IT, Treviso, Italy
- Pharmacy WG will consider joining IHE and meet on March 19th - space will likely be available for subsequent OOC meeting - Jürgen: Will contact Claudio if it's possible and inform HL7 co-chairs
- F2F meeting in June 11-12, 2013 at Nictiz, Den Haag, Netherlands
- Pharmacy will consider if OOC meeting is necessary in June
- No F2F meetings are defined for Fall yet for IHE
- Invitation extended to IHE Pharmacy to join in HL7 Working Group Meetings
- F2F meeting in March 18-19, 2013 at Arsenal-IT, Treviso, Italy
- IHE
Day 2 Pharmacy Workgroup OOC
- Attendees:
- Hugh Glover
- Tom de Jong
- Jean Duteau
- Michael Tan
- Melva Peters
- Q1 and Q2: Ballot issues and withdrawal of negatives
- Medication Order
- Medication Dispense and Supply Event
Review Domain Model walk through - Tom put the pickup request pair back - Jean Trigger events - to be updated - Melva Review interaction - Jean Encoded order model - Hugh Check storyboard numbers - Hugh Detected medication issue to be republished as a CMET - Jean
- Q3: Medication profile
- Need ability to retrieve distinct building blocks/elements (or combination)
- Rx
- dispenses
- statements
- administrations
- Ability to update records
- status changes
- new rxs
- statements
- Need to confirm if there are things we don't support
- link of statements of rxs, dispenses, etc
- assertion of "truth" or validity
- Ability to create a point in time snapshot
- data structure with a context
- List class - Med List
- author
- date/time
- location
- Id
- Ability to query "snapshot"
- Need ability to retrieve distinct building blocks/elements (or combination)
Tom to document introduction/discussion
Need to look at previously balloted Medication Query (May 2007) to determine if we could use
- Q4: Ballot Preparation
- Need to close down 5 JIC projects - Hugh
- Submission of NIBs - done
- Pharmacy CMETs
- medication Order
- Dispense and Supply Event
Confirm with Scott - CDA MTM Confirm with Gerald - SOA
Day 3 Pharmacy Workgroup OOC
- Attendees:
- Hugh Glover
- Tom de Jong
- Jean Duteau
- Melva Peters
- Q1: Review of Medication Dispense Material
- see action items under medication order
- Q2: Pharmacy CDA Mapping Project
- Hugh and Tom worked on a mapping using Altova MapForce
- it was agreed that this would be useful to continue doing this work
- Q3 & Q4: FHIR Medication Administration Resource model in UML