2012-01-30 PA Call Minutes

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Patient Administration Call

Meeting Information

HL7 3-Year Plan/Encounter Ballot Meeting Minutes

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Date: Monday January 30, 2012
Time: 12:00 PM (US Pacific Time, GMT -7 DST)
Facilitator Alex de Leon Note taker Alex de Leon
Attendee Name Affiliation
X Line Saele Helse Vest IKT, Norway
X Irma Jongeneel Nictiz, Netherlands
X Alexander Henkett HL7, Netherlands
X Alex de Leon Kaiser Permanente, USA
X Wendy Huang Canada Infoway, Canada


Agenda Topics

  1. Harmonization Proposal - Wendy Huang
  2. 3-Year Work Plan
  3. Adjourn

Supporting Documents


Minutes/Conclusions Reached:

Harmonization Proposal – Reconcile Rene’s comment Act relationship in Patient Encounter message. Linke encounters (mother/baby and donor/recipient). Proposal needs to be developed. 2/12 is the deadline. Has been voted on and endorsed by PAFM. But needs to be worked on in the next couple of weeks. We were going to have a generic structure in which we could use a type code to define the type of linkage. Wendy could not find a current type code that seemed appropriate. She asked for a business case for creation of a new type code. Keep act relationship of “pertinentInformation”, change typeCode from “pert” to a more appropriate one and add “Code” attribute to pertinientInformation” to allow for the various link types (mother/baby, donor/recipient, and more). The WG reviewed some of the codes that might work for typeCode. None were found to be more appropriate. Wendy put forth that she could work off line with Alexander Henket. Irma offered to write a short business requirement to describe how this relationship would be use. The WG discovered that “code” is not already in the RIM. Wendy suggested that the requirement case will clarify the needs.

Action item Irma will write up the business requirements and send to the participants of this call. By tomorrow 1/31. Comments will be received by and Friday AM. Then Wendy and Alexander will meet on Friday 10-12 Wendy 4PM-5PM Alexander time. (whuang@infoway.ca

3 –year work plan – The WG opened the latest 3 year work plan and tried to determine how to get the latest updates for the V3 Patient Administration topics. Encounter seems to be on track. What is in question are Person and Patient. Encounter seems to be behind by a year. Offline – to identify work items that should be on our list but are not yet on it.

Alexander and Irma will have a meeting on 2/13 to review and attempt to update the status of the Person and Patient. We are in doubt of the current status of the work items. Since this might not be doable for the next ballot, perhaps we should focus on the encounter and registries ballots. Alexander H. suggests that we focus on the encounter ballot. So our priorities will be encounter, patient, person and interdependent registries. There was some discussion having to do with possibly moving the Service Delivery location, Person, Patient into other topics that seem more appropriate (perhaps consildating). This is something we might need to do, although it is lower on the list, based on the work the WG has and the fact that moving this topics will present major changes in the way the documentation is developed (artifact names, etc.).

The PAWG will have weekly calls (starting on 2/13) to solve the encounter ballot comments

Adjourned: 01:20 pm PST.

Meeting Outcomes

  1. Irma will write up the business requirements and send to the participants of this call. By tomorrow 1/31.
  2. Wendy and Alexander will meet on Friday 2/3/12 from 10-12 Wendy's time, 4PM-5PM Alexander's time to compose the proposal.
  3. Alexander and Irma will have a meeting on 2/13/12 to review and attempt to update the status of the Person and Patient.
Next Meeting/Preliminary Agenda Items
  • Next meeting HL7 WGM Monday, February 12, 2012

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