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SAIF Architecture Program – 2011-11-22 Meeting

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Meeting Logistics


  1. Role Call
  2. Agenda Review
  3. SAIF Implementation Guide for Immunizations PSS (Kirnak)
  4. Review Discussion Page for SAIF Critical Success Factors
  5. Status of Risk Assessment and Governance for SAIF AP PSS
  6. CDA R3 Coordination Updates (Haddorff)
  7. Recurring Agenda Items
    1. Pilot Coordination updates (Rick Haddorff)
      1. Any new Coordination items? (Team)
      2. Project Schedule progress (Rick Haddorff)
  8. Action item review (see below)
  9. Next steps

Action Items to Review

  • Owner:
    • ID # and Description
      • Any update or other question?

Link to the Complete List of Action Items/Issues/Risks (GForge)

Meeting Attendees

X=Present on Call

Facilitator Austin Kreisler Note taker(s) David Hamill
Attendee Name Affiliation
X Austin Kreisler TSC Chair
X David Hamill HL7 HQ / Program Manager
X Jane Curry Tooling
John Moehrke Security Cookbook
John Quinn HL7 CTO
Lloyd McKenzie MnM Work Group / SAIF Implementation Guide Pjt
Lorraine Constable Composite Order Pjt \ OO Behavioral Framework Pjt
Patrick Loyd OO Work Group / Composite Order Pjt
Rick Haddorff Project Services WG / SAIF Pilot Coordination Pjt
Pat Van Dyke EHR WG
Steve Hufnagel ArB / SAIF Book Project / SOA
Wendy Huang Implementation Conformance WG
Freida Hall Project Services WG
X Alean Kirnak Immunization IG Project
X Ioana Singureanu Project Services WG
Quorum Requirements Met: Yes


SAIF Implementation Guide for Immunizations PSS

  • The project team has not determined a new title yet.
  • The project team has contacted Patient Care about the PSS.
  • History of PSS: Alean and Steve Hufnagel began thinking about this work at the Sept. 2011 WGM (San Diego). They knew of a SAIF IG for Pharmacy project existed, and knew that one for Immunization would be useful.
  • Austin: The scope and PSS is fine. Just the title needs to change.
  • The PSS indicates that they want to follow the SAIF methodology.
  • Suggestion: Services Architecture for Immunization.
  • Jane: The PSS wants to acknowledge that they’re following SAIF for the Immunization work.

  • Basically the scope of the project is to create an IG for Immunization and the project will utilize SAIF to develop this artifact.
  • Austin: An additional deliverable besides the IG will be feedback to MnM regarding any artifacts and governance.
  • Also add a dependancy of 763-SAIF IG and 828 – Risk Assessment and Governance
  • MnM has a regular weekly call on Friday afternoons to discuss artifact definitions. Perhaps the Immunization project team could attend that call.
  • At the WGM, there is a SAIF Pilot Coordination meeting Q4 Wednesday.
  • Jane: Alean may want to get on an MnM agenda to ask questions that they may have.
  • Immunization IG PSS With SAIF Updates From Today's Call

Review Discussion Page for SAIF Critical Success Factors

  • Jane: We should probably change our strategy on the review and have the TSC weigh in before we get very far down the line. Hence, add an item to the Saturday TSC meeting in San Antonio (Jan. 2012) for 30 minutes.
  • Rick emailed his feedback: I looked through the web page for the governance and thought the items were good. I think the next step is trying to determine the metrics to measure and prove that the governance and the SAIF processes actually improved things. Is that the next step?

Status of Risk Assessment and Governance for SAIF AP PSS

  • The TSC approved this PSS.

CDA R3 Coordination Updates

  • Rick: Dave and I met with Austin and the CDA group to talk about R3 pilot coordination issues. I have updated our schedule with some notes - mostly that we need to meet with CDA, OO and Pharmacy at the Jan. WGM if at all possible to discuss various touchpoints between projects. Austin was skeptical that there would be time with OO since they were already booked.

The group agreed that we should cancel next week’s call (November 29th) given it’s a short holiday week in the U.S. The next call will be December 13th.

Adjourned 1:03 PM Eastern Time

New Action Items

Austin – Bring the Immunization IG to MnM’s attention.
Dave – cancel the Nov. 29th call
Dave – Add a GForge Tracker to indicate the coordination will be required between the Immunization IG and the dependancies listed.
Dave – When adding the Immunization IG to Project Insight, indicate that it’s a SAIF AP project. (create a GForge tracker for this)
Dave – Add a link to the SAIF AP Wiki page to whereever the Immunization IG project work is being housed. (create a GForge tracker for this)
Dave – Send email a Lynn (copy Austin) to request 30 minute agenda item for the Saturday TSC meeting in San Antonio (Jan 2012 WGM) for the SAIF Critical Success Factors.