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Three (3)  weeks until DSTU final content due - November 27, 2011
  1. Call to order
  2. Approval of Agenda
  3. approval of Minutes
  4. TSC report
  6. Compliance Statements
  7. Other business and planning for next meeting
  8. Adjournment

Meeting Information

HL7 ArB Work Group Meeting Minutes

Location: Telcon

Date: 20111103
Time: 4:00pm U.S. Eastern
Facilitator Ron Parker Note taker(s) Tony Julian
Attendee Name Affiliation
X Bond,Andy NEHTA
X Curry, Jane Health Information Strategies
. Grieve, Grahame Kestral Computing
. Hufnagel, Steve U.S. Department of Defense, Military Health System
X Julian, Tony Mayo Clinic
. Koisch, John Guidewire Architecture
. Loyd, Patrick Gordon point Informatics LTD.
. Lynch, Cecil Accenture
X Mead, Charlie National Cancer Institute
X Milosevic, Zoran NEHTA
. Ocasio, Wendell Agilex Technologies
X Parker, Ron CA Infoway
. Quinn, John Health Level Seven, Inc.
. Guests
X Dagnall, Bo HP
X Luthra, Anil NCI
Quorum Requirements Met: Yes


  1. Call to order at 4:00pm Eastern
  2. Agenda approved by affirmation.
  3. Minutes
    1. Motion to approve October 27, 2011 Minutes (Jane/Tony)
    2. Vote: 5-0-0
    1. Charlie: Ken has not done anything with their services stuff. TSC recommended we did not go through TC251, rather the engineering thread.
    2. Jane: I want to deal with governance.
    3. Charlie: I will send Ken an e-mail. Woodyand John said that they would help, but we should avoid TC251. Ken is willing to work with us, anybody interested, to write a paragraph we would put in SAIF-CD and they will put in RAS. Thomas Erl wants an article about SAIF for his newsletter. Thomas does not know about RAS, just that it exists, but he has not read it.
    4. Zoran: I contacted people active in ISO, and have had no response.
    5. Charlie: I will send Ken an email, copy to Zoran and Jane.
    6. Zoran: I got in touch with standards Austrailia who will help.
  5. TSC Report
    1. Charlie: We got the readings from TSC.
    2. - Dont use TC251, and no responsibilities to RFH. Our drop-dead date is November 18, 2 weeks from tomorrow.
    3. ArB responsibilities with the RFH is that we dont have any direct responsibilities. It is expected that it will be SAIF compliant - not at odds with SAIF.
  6. Conformance Statements
    1. Jane: My examples are on the wiki.
      1. Governance Compliance Statements
    2. Charlie: Can you send them to me by e-mail?
    3. Jane: My stuff: I am a little bit torn - I want to say things that will bump into the business side of the BF. I would like to work with whoever is working on the BF.
    4. Charlie: What is to keep you from working with Zoran on those? Then if we have conflicts we can work through them.
    5. Jane: It is the two archtecture problem issue. IG/IG instance.
    6. Charlie: You have to be carefull not to say whether you can determine if instances are compliant - that is withing the iG.
    7. Zoran: Please send me e-mail.
    8. Jane: Will be happy to send it.
    9. Andy: Are you discussing IG,or instances of the IG.
    10. Jane: I stopped before I got to the instances. I worked from the appendix, the governance precepts need to be defined by SAIF, but specific precepts in the IG.
    11. Jane: The ones we are discussing go in the SAIF-CD for the DSTU.
    12. Andy: In a separate section?
    13. Jane: We have not decided.
    14. Andy: It would be usefull to link the statements to a part of the SAIF-CD.
    15. Charlie: I used the concept maps to write my compliance statements so I can link to them.
    16. Jane: I made statements against the structures of the statements, tried not to get into the iG.
    17. Andy: That is a good start.
    18. Charlie: I will send you mine.
    19. Charlie: I will send mine out by end of day Saturday.
    20. Jane: I was hoping to get feedback on mine. Would like people to look at the discussion page.
    21. Ron: Charlies comment on directly e-mailing the content is good. People can write on the comment page.
    22. Jane: I am concerned we would get out of sync. We should be using our tools.
    23. Charlie: The key term is using. People tend to respond to an e-mail.
    24. Jane: I will put the comments on the discussion page. I would like to use the discussion page for people to comment before we put them in a document.
    25. Ron: Good Idea - we will look for them on monday.
    26. Charlie: Send explicit directions to the arb members.
    27. Tony: I will add comments from e-mail that I receive.
    28. Ron: Any other topics?
  7. Adjournment
    1. Adjourned at 4:30pm Eastern

--Tony Julian 20:57, 3 November 2011 (UTC) Meeting Schedule