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Agenda
- Call to order
- Agenda Approval
- SAIF-CD Discussion - Next Steps
- Other Business
- Adjournment
Meeting Information
| HL7 ArB Work Group Meeting Minutes Location: Telcon |
Date: 20110928 Time: 4:00pm U.S. Eastern | |||||
| Facilitator | Charlie Mead | Note taker(s) | Tony Julian | |||
| Attendee | Name | Affiliation | ||||
| X | Bond,Andy | NEHTA | ||||
| X | Curry, Jane | Health Information Strategies | ||||
| . | Grieve, Grahame | Kestral Computing | ||||
| X | Hufnagel, Steve | U.S. Department of Defense, Military Health System | ||||
| X | Julian, Tony | Mayo Clinic | ||||
| . | Koisch, John | Guidewire Architecture | ||||
| . | Loyd, Patrick | Gordon point Informatics LTD. | ||||
| X | Lynch, Cecil | Accenture | ||||
| X | Mead, Charlie | National Cancer Institute | ||||
| X | Ocasio, Wendell | Agilex Technologies | ||||
| X | Parker, Ron | CA Infoway | ||||
| . | Quinn, John | Health Level Seven, Inc. | ||||
| X | Milosevic, Zoran | NEHTA | ||||
| . | Guests | |||||
| . | Laskso, Lynn | HL7 Staff | ||||
| X | Luthra, Anil | NCI | ||||
| X | Dagnall, Bo | Hewlett Packard | ||||
| Quorum Requirements Met: Yes | ||||||
Minutes
- Call to order at 4:00pm U.S. Eastern
- Andy will send out IG compliance to the CD.
- Content is due November 27, 2011
- Withdrawl has been requested.
- We need to add a section on IG compliance to the current document.
- Documents are available at
- Word document (Source of truth)
- PDF document (for publication)
- Tutorial PDF version
- Charlie: Thomas Erl has read the document, and wants to feature it in his journal.
- Jane: I dont mind helping
- Charlie: I just got the e-mail from him today. Do not know what he is expecting. This is good.
- Tony sent marketing chairs link to Charlie.
- Charlie: Did a video on SAIF at the SanDiego WGM, will be posted shortly.
- Ron: What else?
- Jane: Glossary needs updated.
- Jane: need more formal way to reference relationships with Cecil's help.
- Cecil: If you can assemble what needs to be converted. I have tools to automate.
- Charlie: I fooled around with the tool - You dont get the maps imported into the tool appropriately. If you have automation, it would be fabulous.
- Cecil: I would do it differently. I have tools.
- Zoran: Which tools? One tool for concept maps, or different tools?
- Cecil: the tool form the institute for machine cognitions.
- Jane: The COE version does not export as image.
- Cecil: Mine is in owl. I use the COE, then open the owl CMAP in the regular tool and generate the image. I have other tools - I use topgrade mistro.
- Jane: You have to be an expert.
- Cecil: Yes, it is harder to use.
- Bo: My contribution is a new set of eyes. I have comments, how should I share?
- Charlie: Line by line, or overarching?
- Bo: Both
- Charlie: Send them to me.
- Zoran: Do we have time for questions? I discussed with Andy, it loks really good. Thanks to Wendell for compressing the BF. In figure 1, we talk about SAIF-CD organizational Structure. Where is the input from Berndt used?
- Charlie: The thing we took from the article, was the notion of perspectives.
- Zoran: These are the three perspectives?
- Charlie: They dont name them. We tried to take MDA from OMG, and went back to role-based perspectives. We wanted to acknowledge that we had the notion, and found the same in Bernd's paper.
- Zoran: Thank you. I looked at the part about language and grammer= I think to me that we are talking about modlelling languages, the distinction between language and grammer is closer.
- Charlie: There was a notion that the CD does not express grammer, it expresses language. I would appreciate help with this.
- Zoran: I thought that might be the case. I went through and dont see any significant concerns - except the ECCF Consistency definition.
- Charlie: Thursday afternoon, Andy pushed hard for the addition of a cross chapter relationship semantics map. Andy, Jane, and I worked on it for a few hours -
- Jane: 1.1.4.5 in the document (Figure 4).
- Zoran: Distinction between artifact and component?
- Jane: Artifact is not automated, component is built from the IG.
- Charlie: Component is generic - specified then built.
- Tony: Wiki glossary is outdated.
- Jane: It is inconsitent, with too many terms.
- Ron: Someone needs to do a side-by-side walkthrough.
- Charlie: How many terms in the glossary?
- Tony: 152
- Charlie: Can we divide them up? Cecil would you have time to look at 20 terms.
- Jane: I was thinking about taking the GF terms.
- Charlie: Would it mess you up if we worked on it.
- SAIF Glossary
- Jane is doing ABC. - first 50.
- Anil will take DH.
- Ron will take I through P.
- Steve will do the rest.
- If glossary term is referenced in CD use the definition in the CD.
- If the term does not exist, flag for removal.
- IF you reach the end of day on Monday, and will not be done by Thursday, let us know.
- Look for terms that have lexical significance, but not semantic correctness.
- Charlie: If the OASIS guys come up with an operational strategy, what Ken and I discussed that a small group of his people and some of the ARB, if you are interested, let me know. The ideas is to cross-referenct the OASIS work with the SAIF-CD.
- Zoran: I will be happy to help.
- Jane:The OASIS document is more generic on Governance. In the current GF, more explecit stuff for governance is pushed into the IG.
- Zoran: It has lost its sharpness.
- Jane: A bunch of stuff that used to be there got pushed out. I did a map between the GF and BF language, including the differences and bridging concepts. I would be interested in your feedback. I think have a way to get to compliance statements.
- Zoran: There are some good things in the SOA REF to look at.
- Jane: A lot of that goes into the IG - I will be doing artifact definition on the enterprise conceptual so I'll have an opportunity to test the compliance statements before we have to ballot.
- Anil: I am working with Thomas Erl because I am in Vancouver, so I can work with him. I am helping with the next SOA in healthcare training. It will be good visibility for us.
- Adjourned at 5:05pm U.S. Eastern.
Tony Julian 21:07, 29 September 2011 (UTC) http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=Arb_meeting_schedule#Teleconferences
