20110831 SAIF AP ConCall

SAIF Architecture Program – 2011-08-31 Meeting

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Meeting Logistics

• Dates: Weekly on Wednesdays
• Time: 10:00 - 11:00 Eastern

USE THE FOLLOWING DIAL-IN UNTIL SEPTEMBER 1, 2011:

• Phone Number: +1 (702) 894-2444
• Participant Passcode: 7124466

• Web Coordinates: https://www2.gotomeeting.com/join/768017802 Meeting ID: 768-017-802

Agenda

1. Role Call
2. Agenda Review
3. The SAIF Pilot Coordination project schedule needs to update target dates for various items.
   1. Link to the SAIF Pilot Coordination Project Schedule: http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=SAIF_Pilot_Coordination_Project
4. OO Questions from SAIF Pilot Coordination Project (Tracker 2037)
   1. When does OO need a Wrappers Facilitator for their Composite Order project?
      1. By Jan 2012 according to the target date in project #38?
   2. What is OO’s target date for creating the functional profile for composite order and lab order?
      1. By Jan 2012 according to the target date in project #38 and 587?
   3. What is OO’s target date for Updating generator to create the new technical artifacts for BF?
      1. By Jan 2012 according to the target date in project #797?
   4. When does OO plan on balloting the Composite Order project?
      1. By Jan 2012 according to the target date in project #38?
   5. When will OO produce schemas in the OO Composite Order project?
      1. By Jan 2012 according to the target date in project #38?
   6. When does OO need a SOA Facilitator for their Composite Order project?
      1. By Jan 2012 according to the target date in project #38?
   7. Does OO or MnM think new fields and/or classes will be needed to support the new Behavioral Framework?
      1. If so, will they be needed by Jan 2012 according to the target date in project #797?
5. MnM Questions from SAIF Pilot Coordination Project (Tracker 2038)
   1. Does OO or MnM think new fields and/or classes will be needed to support the new Behavioral Framework?
      1. If so, will they be needed by Jan 2012 according to the target date in project #797?
   2. When will MnM include the following in the SAIF IG: methodology, diagramming, pieces/parts that go in the ballot to define BF, including technical artifacts?
6. Structured Docs Questions from SAIF Pilot Coordination Project (Tracker 2039)
   1. When will Structured Docs consider model consistency between CDA R3 and PA will be considered? This will be the date that will be reflected in the SAIF Pilot Coordination schedule.
7. OO/CBCC/Security/Structured Docs Questions from SAIF Pilot Coordination Project (Tracker 2040)
   1. What is the target date for Security, CBCC, OO, Struc Docs to determine whether they need to create new confidentialy codes or use existing codes
10. Recurring Agenda Items
    1. Agenda items for San Diego Sept. WGM – Wednesday Q4: 20110914_SAIF_AP_Meeting
    2. Pilot Coordination updates (Rick Haddorff)
       1. Any new Coordination items? (Team)
       2. Project Schedule progress (Rick Haddorff)
11. Action item review (see below)
12. Next steps

Action Items to Review

• Owner:
  • ID # and Description
    • Any update or other question?

Link to the Complete List of Action Items/Issues/Risks (GForge)

Meeting Attendees

X=Present on Call

Facilitator	Austin Kreisler	Note taker(s)	David Hamill
Attendee	Name	Affiliation
X	Austin Kreisler	TSC Chair
	Brian Pech	Interested Participant
X	David Hamill	HL7 HQ / Program Manager
	Ed Tripp	Domain Experts SD \ TSC
X	Jane Curry	Tooling
	Jim McClay	Emergency Care
	John Moehrke	Security Cookbook
	John Quinn	HL7 CTO
	Lloyd McKenzie	MnM Work Group / SAIF Implementation Guide Pjt
X	Lorraine Constable	Composite Order Pjt \ OO Behavioral Framework Pjt
X	Patrick Loyd	OO Work Group / Composite Order Pjt
X	Rick Haddorff	Project Services WG / SAIF Pilot Coordination Pjt
	Robert Lario	Object Management
X	Pat Van Dyke	EHR WG
	Steve Hufnagel	ArB / SAIF Book Project / SOA
	Wendy Huang	Implementation Conformance WG
X	Margie Kennedy
	Freida Hall	Project Services WG
Quorum Requirements Met: Yes

Minutes

Minutes/Conclusions Reached:
OO Questions from SAIF Pilot Coordination Project (Tracker 2037)
Sub bullet #1 - When does OO need a Wrappers Facilitator for their Composite Order project? By Jan 2012 according to the target date in project #38?
Patrick: Depends on if BF project has Wrappers requirements
Jane: Since BF is only being balloted at the canonical definition, the canonical definition is being balloted this current cycle, and reconciliation and IG work will follow that. Hence, at a minimum, it would be May 2012.
Patrick: Needs MnM artifact definition input. OO doesn’t need a Wrappers Facilitator.

Austin: OO doesn’t need a Wrappers facilitator, they need wrappers for the CO static model. Hence the coordination is a need to have wrappers in place.

SUMMARY:
OO has no need for Wrappers Facilitator

Rewrite this coordination to be: Artifact Definition coordinates with InM project for Wrappers (InM and MnM)
The output will be Wrappers draft and Wrappers final, and will be a coordination between.

OO will use the Wrappers draft and Wrappers final (OO and InM)

Sub Bullet #2 - What is OO’s target date for creating the functional profile for composite order and lab order
Functional Profile won’t be ready to ballot by Jan 2012.
Targeting May 2012

Sub bullet #3 - What is OO’s target date for Updating generator to create the new technical artifacts for BF?
Austin: No sooner than having a SAIF IG for the BF.
Patrick: From a tooling perspective, it takes a long time for this work. Probably a 2013/2014 timeframe. In the meantime, until the generator is ready, manual work will create the technical artifacts.
Jane: Another dependency is that there will be other balloted items coming out of the the SAIF IG, and there are other items on the tooling priority list before getting to the BF work.
Austin: The generator won’t be on the critical path for moving forward.

sub bullet #4 - When does OO plan on balloting the Composite Order project?
Patrick: We will be ready to ballot traditional artifacts for Jan 2012 (Static Model and dynamic model, etc).

Sub bullet #5 - When will OO produce schemas in the OO Composite Order project?
Patrick: The constraint is that there are few resources that can create the schemas. OO will need to work with MnM and Tooling to create the schemas.
Austin: Will need to identify who the resource is.
Patrick: Dependant on the Artifact Definition project. Is computable required for 2012?
Patrick: Jan 2012 will be tough to meet but perhaps possible. Keep as Jan 2012.

Add New Coordination Item:
Austin: OO and Publishing – will items be balloted via normal V3 process or as a PDF

Sub bullet #6 - When does OO need a SOA Facilitator for their Composite Order project?
Patrick: Has needed one from the beginning. Perhaps the best mechanism is for OO to finish the RMIMs (going to ballot in January 2012), and then engage a SOA facilitator for items worked on to be balloted in May 2012.
Hence, keep the target date as Jan 2012.

sub bullet #7 - Does OO or MnM think new fields and/or classes will be needed to support the new Behavioral Framework?

Patrick: answer is definitely yes for BF
Patrick: CO will not have any new fields; OO doesn’t have anything special.

Austin: What OO needs is a draft implementation of the BF and a final implementation of the BF, which is part of the SAIF IG project by MnM

MnM Questions from SAIF Pilot Coordination Project (Tracker 2038)
Lloyd McKenzie updated 2038 with a status update.

Structured Docs Questions from SAIF Pilot Coordination Project (Tracker 2038)
Austin guessed May 2012, but will discuss further with Struc Docs and PA in San Diego

OO/CBCC/Security/Structured Docs Questions from SAIF Pilot Coordination Project (Tracker 2040)
This item is more of a dependency than a coordination item.
Patrick: None of the groups will know enough until MnM finishes the draft of the Artifacts.
Austin: This task is dependant upon on project 798 and MnM finishing the artifact definition.

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Adjourned 10:59 AM Eastern Time