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Agenda

  1. Call to order
  2. Approval of Agenda
  3. SAIF Canonical
  4. Other business and planning for next meeting
  5. Adjournment

Meeting Information

HL7 ArB Work Group Meeting Minutes

Location: Telcon

Date: 20110616
Time: 4:00pm U.S. Eastern
Facilitator Charlie Mead Note taker(s) Tony Julian
Attendee Name Affiliation
X Bond,Andy NEHTA
. Curry, Jane Health Information Strategies
. Grieve, Grahame Kestral Computing
X Hufnagel, Steve U.S. Department of Defense, Military Health System
X Julian, Tony Mayo Clinic
. Koisch, John Guidewire Architecture
. Loyd, Patrick Gordon point Informatics LTD.
X Lynch, Cecil ontoreason LLC
X Mead, Charlie National Cancer Institute
. Milosevic, Zoran NEHTA
. Ocasio, Wendell Agilex Technologies
. Parker, Ron CA Infoway
. Quinn, John Health Level Seven, Inc.
. Guests
. Haddorff, Rick Mayo Clinic
. Laskso, Lynn HL7 Staff
Quorum Requirements Met: Yes

Minutes

  1. Agenda approved
  2. SAIF Canonical
    1. Charlie: Several people were passionate about the missing part: How to do you go from the cannonical to an actual representaton.
    2. Steve and Andy had specific notions about topics missing that needed to be more explicit.
      1. We need to meet this schedule, if possible:
      2. June 30, Content available for review by ArB during telcon.
      3. July 3 (Sunday) Editors documents ready – Tony will paste together this initial load
      4. July 4-23 – massaging the content.
      5. July 24 (Sunday) Final Content Deadline
      6. August 1 (Monday) Provisional Ballot Opening
    3. Charlie: I am happy to start editing.
    4. Steve: Send out the outline, flagging the areas where other people are writing. Give some fednback on what should be changed.
    5. Charlie: The biggest piece, there were specific things from Wendell and John. Cecil, will you begin re-writing, do you have an understanding?
    6. Cecil: You have to back it out a level, and go through each of the sections, define canonically, then sequence together.
    7. Charlie: Removing HL7
    8. Cecil: At a canonical level, so there cant be people saying it needs to be more HL7 specific.
    9. Charlie: I will start writing, take the outline, put in word, and send to the list often, at least once a week
      1. So we can show progress
      2. So people can read and comment, so people will know what the content is. Ann will buff things up, as a tecnical editor.
      3. There is a SOA in healthcare in DC, July 15 or so. Thomas Erle is giving the keynote - he has seen the first version, and will not reference until published. We have to wrap the version 1 in additional conformance statements (how do we know an IG is conformant).
    10. Steve: That is pretty optimistic.
    11. Charlie: Depends on the content. July 24 is possible. We can split version 1 from DSTU.
    12. Steve: In our discussions, we said the glossary is online, with only an index in the book.
    13. Charlie: If we take the glossary, we need to merge with Publishing.
    14. Steve: Only put index in document. Glossary was repeating concepts.
    15. Charlie: We use the SOA glossary all the time.
    16. Steve: Could Ann look at the current, and if their are guidelines it would be helpful. Initially Andy and I were to help you. Do we want to coordinate?
    17. Charlie: Which parts of the outline will you work on?
    18. Steve: Charlie was to do foundation principles - you had asked some questions -
      1. What is canonical
      2. How do you operationalize the IG
    19. Charlie: I will send a note to John and Wendell. Cecil is on board for IF, I will ask Jane for re-writes to the GF. I will rewrite the ECCF. We have two weeks, and should be on our way by next week. I will try to send something to Steve and Andy.
    20. Steve: I dont see the IG, and what goes into it (including the matrix)- where do you see that?
    21. Charlie: That is part of what John and Wendell were to address.
    22. Steve: If they dont do that, I would be willing.
    23. Charlie: I will send an e-mail.
    1. The new outline is:
1.            Ballot reconciliation update
2.            Ballot trajectory to September 2011
3.            Proposed SAIF Canon revision/ToC
a.            Intro
i.              Scope
ii.             Goals
iii.            Approach
iv.           Glossary organization
b.            Foundational Principles
i.              “Service-Aware”
ii.             Describing Complex Systems
1.            Dimension
2.            Perspectives
3.            Interoperability Stack (formally Specification Stack)
iii.            SAIF Specifications
1.            Grammars and Grounding
iv.           SAIF Implementation Guides 
1.            Purpose
2.            Relation to Canonical SAIF
3.            Scope
a.            What is in canonical model?
b.            What is in IG?
c.             What is in “the results of operationalizing an IG?”
4.            Conformity assessment (IG-to-canoncial)
v.            ISS
1.            Subject and Type (domain of canonical)        
2.            Profile (domain of IG)
3.            Instance (domain of architecture)
c.             Behavioural Framework
i.              Community
ii.             Roles
iii.            Behaviour
iv.           Interactions
v.            Policies
vi.           etc
d.            Information Framework 
i.              Domain
ii.             Models
iii.            Constraints / Subtypes
iv.           Localization
v.            Classes, attributes
vi.           Datatypes
vii.          Vocab
viii.         etc
e.            Governance Framework
i.              Core Processes
1.            Conformance
2.            Education / Communication
3.            Escalation
4.            Vitality
ii.             Precepts
1.            Objectives
2.            Policies
3.            Guidelines
4.            Standards
iii.            People / Roles
iv.           Process
v.            Metrics
vi.           etc
f.             ECCF 
i.              IG Conformity Assessment
ii.             Compliance
iii.            Correspondence
iv.           Etc
  1. adjourned at 4:30pm U.S. Eastern

Tony Julian 19:37, 23 June 2011 (UTC) http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=Arb_meeting_schedule#Teleconferences

 Tony Julian 17:37, 31 January 2011 (UTC)