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2016-05-20 PC CIMI POC Call Minutes

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Meeting Information

HL7 PC-CIMI-POC Meeting Minutes

Location: HL7 WGM, Montreal

Date: 2016-05-20
Time: 9:00-10:30 ET
Facilitator Jay Lyle Note taker(s) Jay Lyle
Attendee Name Affiliation


Richard Esmond PenRad
Galen Mulrooney JP Systems
y Jay Lyle JP Systems / VA
Stan Huff Intermountain
y Susan Matney Intermountain
Susan Campbell
Michael Sterly
Gerard Frieks
Serafina Versaggi
y M'Lynda Owens
Larry McKnight

Agenda

Agenda Topics


Minutes

Minutes/Conclusions Reached:

  • Check listserv: notice may not have gone out
  • PSS: TSC & ARB questions
    • 1) New product definition is checked - is this truly a new product?
      • 1. We didn’t know what to check. If it doesn’t qualify as a product, maybe there’s a better choice.
    • 2) Timeline: Most dates have passed on the timeline listed in the PSS. Is this the correct timeline?
      • 2. It is dragging on a bit. I’ll run some new dates by the team on Tuesday.
    • 3) The investigative project box is not checked, although the scope states it is investigative. Wondering if it was meant to be an investigative project in terms of the PSS.
      • 3. I suppose it’s investigative. But the checkbox suggested that allowed “limited scope definition,”

and it wasn’t investigative enough to require that. Though perhaps question 1 means it is anyway.

    • 4) ARB may be interested in the project.
      • 4. OK, meaning as participants, or to review?
  • CEM update
    • Susan has given skin inspection & braden to modeling team at Intermountain to create CEMs
      • Question: 'normal for race and ethnicity' is not a color.
      • Answer: neither is 'cyanotic'; they're all judgments.
    • Braden: need to get aggregate score into LOINC. Temporary value for this node.
  • We looked at some models and sent this question to the list:
    • I asked last week whether a LOINC code or an observable should be bound to the root node of a model or to a "code" attribute. I think the answer was that the whole model refers to more than the observable, and that the IMHC approach was to use the model identifier as a sort of semantic identifer for that. And that the thing measured or observed in the "value" field should be identified in a "code" field. But the examples I'm seeing in the CIMI browser are binding LOINC codes to the root. (E.G., http://www.clinicalelement.com/cimi-browser/#/20150809/CIMI/CIMI-CORE-ITEM_GROUP.troponin_i_serplmcnc.v1.0.0)
  • Composition
    • CQI project: observation, statement, complete/observed
    • Impact on Inheritance Map
  • Terminology values
  • Schedule for CEM, text, PenRad approaches

Meeting Outcomes

Actions
  • begin construction of test classes
Next Meeting/Preliminary Agenda Items
  • Review test class progress & tooling

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