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Revision as of 07:47, 13 August 2011

This is the agenda of the WGM in San Diego, September 2011

MON Q3 (13:45-15:00) Business-Icon.jpg Technical med.gif

  1. Administrative agenda items (max 30 minutes)
  2. Everest: a MIF based code generator for .net (Justin Fyfe, Mohawk College, CA) (max.30 minutes)
    • Everest (see is a MIF based code/class generator for .net. In 2011 it was announced that the toolkit now offerst support for MIFs published in universal-realm normative editions, and the roadmap envisions a Java version as well.
      • Note: Everest has been presented before during a RIMBAA meeting, see RIMBAA: Marc-HI Everest. The presentation in San Diego will focus on new developments and experiences.
    • Justin will introduce the toolkit, its architecture, and will show how it can be used in a project to enable v3 support in an application. His presentation will include a coding demonstration.
    • He will also show some of the details of the data type library (See his blogpost: Everest 1.0 Data Type Operations) and how one could re-use the data type libraries as contained in Everest / jEverest (for example, see this blogpost: Connect to MGRID using Everest).

WED Q6 (19:00-21:00) Technical med.gif

  1. Administrative agenda items
  2. Strategic value of the RIM (Jamie Ferguson, VP Health IT Strategy and Policy, Kaiser Permanente, US) (max 30. minutes)
    • Jamie is one of the plenary speakers at this meeting. His talk won't be as technical and implementation oriented as some other RIMBAA presentations, but he has attended RIMBAA meetings before so he's aware of the more architectural/technical background of this group.
    • The topics which will be covered are: Where does the RIM fit in with Meaningful Use and where Jamie see it's used in systems. He'll express his views on using RIM and controlled terminologies in modeling systems
  3. OpenCDS - implementation aspects of a clinical decision support application based on the HL7 vMR standard (Ken Kawamoto, co-chair CDS WG, University of Utah) (max. 30 minutes)
    1. (Kawamoto) A brief introduction to OpenCDS and how it is using the proposed vMR standard (basically a simplified view of the RIM for CDS)
    2. (Andrew McIntyre) demo of the Gello authoring tool and how it can read v3 messages and a vmr defined by the grammar that is being balloted. The relationship with Query Expression and Execution Technology will be discussed as well.
    • As a reference, the standard slide set for OpenCDS is available as the top link in the References section of
  4. A SMIRF / CRUD layer concept (requested, max. 60 minutes)
    • Details to follow

THU Q2 (11:00-12:30) Tooling WG Technical med.gif

  • Note: this is a meeting of the Tooling WG, RIMBAA representatives have been requested to attend. See Tooling agenda for this WGM.
  • Topic up for discussion: Tooling Tactical Plan, Formalize liaisons to other WG.
  • The tactical plan will be changed to (at the request of the board) include tools for software implementers [of standards], whereas the focus up to now has been on tools for standards development.
    1. The most important tools are probably v3 code generators (Everest, jEverest, MDHT). A tool like Everest would probably benefit most by a form of 'official recognition' are a 'statement of quality' by HL7, and by a Marketing effort to make it much wider aware that such tools exist. Yes, I'm sure they'd like to receive feedback/review of their tools, and they'll probably take any money we'd care to give them, but in the larger scheme of things 'getting the word out' is probably the key thing towards an increase in adoption of these tools. Tooling could reach out to the creators of such tools, even if the development wasn't part of HL7 or OHT, and form some sort of liason with them.
    2. Another one that we have identified: re-usable data types R1/R2 programming libraries (for validation of data types, to support data type methods such as =, >, != or << -- note: this library is not about serialization/deserialization). The OHT toolsuite has such a library, as has MDHT, the instance editor, Everest, .. and most applications that are serious about supporting v3. Yet all these groups and vendors have had to reinvent a data types library. That is nonsensical. IMHO we'll need to invest some money in creating a re-usable library in c#/Java to support data types R1/R2. One could probably be created by stripping parts from the existing libraries - and adding new stuff.

THU Q3 (13:45-15:00) Technical med.gif

  1. Administrative agenda items
  2. VMR implementations
    • Jan Wittenber?, David E. Shields?, Andrew McIntyre?

Meeting Attendance (marked X)

At Name Affiliation Email Address
  Abdul Malik Shakir COH, US
  Adel Ghlamallah CIHI, CA
  Alan Nicol Informatics, UK
  Alejandro Pica EMA, UK
  Alexander Henket E-Novation, NL
  Alex de Jong Siemens, US
  Alex Zupan ItalTBS, IT
  Ameet Pathak Dana-Farber Cancer Institute, US
  Amnon Shabo IBM, IL
  Andrew McIntyre Medical Objects, AU
  Andy Stechislin GordonPoint, CA
  Anil Luthra , US
  Ann Wrightson NHS Wales, UK
  Assaf Halevy DBmotion
  Bill Friggle Sanofi Aventis, US
  Brian Pech KP, US
  Bruce McKinnon JassCo, CA
  Charlie McCay Ramsey, UK
  Chirag Bhatt FEI Systems, US
  Chris Melo Philips, US
  Chris Winters Vocollect Healthcare Systems, Inc., US
  Dale Nelson , US
  Dan Kokotov 5AM Solutions, US
  Dave Barnet NHS, UK
  David Rowed Ocean Informatics, AU
  Dave Shaver Corepoint health, US
  Diane Gutiw SAIC, US
  Duana Bender Mohawk College, CA
  Ed Larsen Larsen Inc., US
  Ernst de Bel UMCN, NL
  Ewout Kramer Furore, NL
  Gavin Morris Kestral, AU
  Geoffry Roberts Blue Thread LLC, US
  George de la Torre Tufts Health, US
  Gordon Raup Datuit LLC, US
  Grahame Grieve AU
  Heath Frankel Ocean Informatics, AU
  Hugh Glover BlueWave Informatics, UK
  Hugh Leslie Ocean Informatics, AU
  Ian Bull ACT health, AU
  Ilia Fortunov Microsoft, US
  Jane Curry HIS inc, CA
  Jean Henri Duteau GPI, CA
  John Finbraaten Marshfield Clinic, US
  John Harvey Iatric, US
  John Koisch Guidewire Architecture, CA
  John Timm IBM, US
  John Ulmer ??, US
  Kai Heitmann Heitmann Consulting, DE
  Kenneth Salyards SAMSHA, US
  Kenneth Weng CareFx, US
  Lee Coller Oracle, US
  Linda Birn MOH Holdings, SG
  Lyssa Neel Infoway, CA
  Lorraine Constable CA
  Marilyn Maguire Fuji Med, US
  Mario Roy Iatric, US
  Mark Bevivino Iatric, US
  Mark Shafarman Shafarman Consulting, US
  Mark Tucker Regenstrief, US
  Massimo Frossi Ital TBS, IT
  Michael van der Zel Groningen University Hospital,
and Results4Care, NL
  Mike Rossman KP, US
  Muhammad Afzal SEECS, PK
  Nick Radov Axolotl, US
  Patrick Loyd GPI, CA
  Pascal Mattiocco KP, US
  Paul Boyes Guidewire Architecture, CA
  Peter Gummer Ocean Informatics, AU
  Peter Hendler KP, US
  Rene Spronk Ringholm, NL
  Richard Kronstad Carefacts, UK
  Richard Thoreson SAMSHA-CSAT, US
  Rik Smithies NHS, UK
  Robert Worden Charteris, UK
  Sam Heard Ocean Informatics, AU
  Sean Muir VA, US
  Scott Parkey Axolotl, US
  Stacy Berger COH
  Steven Royce NEHTA, AU
  Steve Fine Cerner, US
  Tessa van Stijn Nictiz, NL
  Tim Dodd CA
  Tod Ryal Cerner, US
  Todd Parnell 5AM Solutions, US
  Tony Lam MOH Holdings, SG
  Vassil Paytchev Epic, US
  Yunwei Wang Siemens, US
  Zhijing Liu Siemens, US