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**Gaby Jewell, Cerner (US)
 
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**Keith Naylor, Cfh (UK)
 
**Keith Naylor, Cfh (UK)
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**Michael Bottos, JBS International
 
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**MIF 1.0 (September 2007 ballot). Tool uses OHF MIF parser, has a 'fix' process to translate back from MIF 2.x to 1.0.
 
**MIF 1.0 (September 2007 ballot). Tool uses OHF MIF parser, has a 'fix' process to translate back from MIF 2.x to 1.0.
 
**Tool allows one to view R-MIMs, images pulled from the ballot.
 
**Tool allows one to view R-MIMs, images pulled from the ballot.
**If one has defined a process (in JBM/Boss) and a model (R-MIM in MIF format), next step is to create a GUI/Form/Widget (one for each process step). With or without binding of GUI to RIM-classes. Join Forms into 'larger Forms'. Binding to HL7 vocabularies - with extensions if context so requires.
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**If one has defined a process (in JBM/Boss) and a model (R-MIM in MIF format), next step is to create a GUI/Form/Widget (one for each process step). With or without binding of GUI to RIM-classes (binding is drag and drop from RIM concept to GUI element). Join Forms into 'larger Forms'. Binding to HL7 vocabularies - with extensions if context so requires.
**GUI's in the end based on XHTML, style sheets. Web2 with java scripts.
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**GUI's in the end based on XHTML, style sheets. Web2 with java scripts. GUI design tool is exactly the same tool as the report designer (for generation of PDF).
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**Busines rules: pre- and post- processing on the R-MIM based object model.
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**Methods: R-MIM.read & R-MIM.create; state changes of focal acts as such are not used. State machine (trigger events) are reflected in process modelling.
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**Have tools to extend R-MIMs, vocabulary, if required by new use cases.
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**Tools under development: HL7 documentation editor; regenerate new physical db once RIM has been extended; Rule (U) based access control on top of role (O) based access control; use JBoss enterprise content management system (ECM);
 
*Discussion
 
*Discussion
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**Ernst de Bel addresses issues with versioning of 'business rules', example was the definition of 'neonate' which has different administrative definitions depending on the organization. This
  
 
==Monday Q4 (15:30-17:00)==
 
==Monday Q4 (15:30-17:00)==

Revision as of 22:00, 15 September 2008

Minutes of the RIMBAA WG from the Vancouver WGM (Sept. 2008)

Monday Q3 (13:45-15:00)

  • Chair: Peter Hendler, scribe: Rene Spronk
  • Attendees:
    • Amnon Shbo, (Israel)
    • Allen Hobbs, KP (US)
    • Andrea Ceiner, ItalTBS (Italy)
    • Andrew Perry, Clininfo (UK)
    • Cecil Lynch, Ontoreason, (US)
    • Davide Magni, ItalTBS (Italy)
    • Ernst de Bel, UMCN (Netherlands)
    • Jamie Ferguson, KP (US)
    • Jason Siegel, Atlas development, (US)
    • John McKim, ,
    • Gaby Jewell, Cerner (US)
    • Gunther Schadow, , (US)
    • Hugh (UK)
    • Keith Naylor, Cfh (UK)
    • Lawrence Turcotte, ++
    • Michael Bottos, JBS International
    • Michael van der Zel, UMCG (Netherlands)
    • Peter Hendler MD, Kaiser Permanente (US)
    • Ravi Natarjan, NHS (UK)
    • Rene Spronk, Ringholm (Germany)
    • Rik Smithies, NHS (UK)
    • Robert Worden, (UK)
    • Scot Rhodes,
  • Approval of the minutes of the last WGM, available at [1].
    • Approved without objection.
  • Presentation of the core concepts of the Technology Matrix, and the Java based RIMBAA reference project, by Peter Hendler.
  • Presentation of the PHI Technology RIMBAA application by Andrea Ceiner and Davide Magni (ItalTBS, Italy)
    • See RIMBAA: PHI Technology and PHI TECHNOLOGY white paper for a description of the approach.
    • Andrea kicks of by explaining the target audience and main drivers for the development of this framework/software factory. Aims to be used in a way that is closer to the end user (non programmers) than to a programmer.
    • They developed plug-ins for Eclipse; can be shipped with a run time version of Eclipse; used as a stand alone application.
    • Buttons in GUI are based on v3 trigger events (and as a default have a trigger event name), kicks of a process. Driver is the process, not the user interface. This has the advantage that one can log out of the user interface, and one will be warned (when logging on again) what processes are to be resumed.
    • Uses JBM process designer (JBoss) to model workflow/process steps.
    • MIF 1.0 (September 2007 ballot). Tool uses OHF MIF parser, has a 'fix' process to translate back from MIF 2.x to 1.0.
    • Tool allows one to view R-MIMs, images pulled from the ballot.
    • If one has defined a process (in JBM/Boss) and a model (R-MIM in MIF format), next step is to create a GUI/Form/Widget (one for each process step). With or without binding of GUI to RIM-classes (binding is drag and drop from RIM concept to GUI element). Join Forms into 'larger Forms'. Binding to HL7 vocabularies - with extensions if context so requires.
    • GUI's in the end based on XHTML, style sheets. Web2 with java scripts. GUI design tool is exactly the same tool as the report designer (for generation of PDF).
    • Busines rules: pre- and post- processing on the R-MIM based object model.
    • Methods: R-MIM.read & R-MIM.create; state changes of focal acts as such are not used. State machine (trigger events) are reflected in process modelling.
    • Have tools to extend R-MIMs, vocabulary, if required by new use cases.
    • Tools under development: HL7 documentation editor; regenerate new physical db once RIM has been extended; Rule (U) based access control on top of role (O) based access control; use JBoss enterprise content management system (ECM);
  • Discussion
    • Ernst de Bel addresses issues with versioning of 'business rules', example was the definition of 'neonate' which has different administrative definitions depending on the organization. This

Monday Q4 (15:30-17:00)

  • Attendees:
  • Presentation of the UMCN RIMBAA application
    • Presentation mixed with a Q&A session, and live demonstration
    • Presented by Ernst de Bel (the Netherlands)
    • This is a fullblown EHR created by a Dutch university hospital, based on a RIM persistence layer (6 tables in an ER database).
    • See RIMBAA: UMC St Radboud Nijmegen for a description of the approach.

Tuesday 17:30-19:30 ("Q5")